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The Marty Lounge>Brady received 27 PI calls in 2020
BlackOp 04:15 PM 02-11-2021
Buccaneers were the beneficiary of 27 PI calls this 2020 season, Kansas City received 4.

No other team had more than 19 (Miami/Pittsburgh) and 28 teams had less than 15.

Buccaneers were the beneficiary of 12 PI last year with Winston throwing for over 5000 yards...

Brady's Bucs received 15 more PI calls than the same team did last season...and set an NFL record.

Brady had 12 more PI calls than 28 other teams....16 more than 21 teams. He was essentially getting twice the PI calls of nearly every other franchise...and 7 times the amount as Mahomes.

25 teams had 11 or less...

Numbers dont lie...only the media about Brady's "greatness"

Chiefs were called for 2 PIs in one quarter of the SB...they only had their opponents flagged 4 times all year.
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Al Bundy 05:41 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God:
LOL. Brady is a total fraud.
Chickenshit pussy ass bitch.
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rabblerouser 05:49 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
That the NFL isn't a sport, that it's entertainment?
Ding Ding!

Correctamundo!

And you know what the court then ruled!?

*it's the best part*
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GloryDayz 06:39 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Ding Ding!

Correctamundo!

And you know what the court then ruled!?

*it's the best part*
Wait, I didn't win any Casino cash for that?
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rabblerouser 06:56 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Wait, I didn't win any Casino cash for that?
(*I don't know how to award you casino cash for that, but you know I got a fitty for ya at least if I knew how...*)
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GloryDayz 07:04 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
(*I don't know how to award you casino cash for that, but you know I got a fitty for ya at least if I knew how...*)
:-) It's all good.

And the courts agreed with the Jets, that it's not a sport, it's entertainment.

So the NFL, like the WWE and WWF, are free to influence outcomes as much as they wish. From a legal perspective.
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rabblerouser 07:51 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
:-) It's all good.

And the courts agreed with the Jets, that it's not a sport, it's entertainment.

So the NFL, like the WWE and WWF, are free to influence outcomes as much as they wish. From a legal perspective.
But "only for entertainment purposes" i.e. Vegas isn't supposed to have an influence.

*wink, wink*
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GloryDayz 08:15 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
But "only for entertainment purposes" i.e. Vegas isn't supposed to have an influence.

*wink, wink*
Are you suggesting that what you just posted might explain some mystery holds and other obvious holds that go "unseen"? :-)
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Giant Octopodes 08:57 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
:-) It's all good.

And the courts agreed with the Jets, that it's not a sport, it's entertainment.

So the NFL, like the WWE and WWF, are free to influence outcomes as much as they wish. From a legal perspective.
That's just not true, at all. Like, even a little bit.

If you want to know the truth, and not just accept stories fed to you, feel free to read up on the court decision yourself.

Google the following, it's the top link:
mayer v belichick findlaw 1524532

I'll attempt to provide cliff notes for the reading challenged. I'll wrap them in spoilers tags since I expect this to be pretty long:

Spoiler!


Bolded the most important parts where they explain their findings and reasoning. Again though don't take my word for it, read it for yourself. At no time and in no way did they rule the NFL is entertainment not a sport. At no time in no way did they equate it to the WWE or WWF. At no time did they rule the NFL is free to fix games or provide a steered outcome outside the bounds of their rules.

Instead what they ruled is that in the NFL, like all pro sports, cheating happens. They ruled that the NFL had acted appropriately within the bounds of its own structure and rules to deal with the cheating, and had still provided a NFL pro football game to the plaintiff, which is all he was entitled to. They ruled he was not entitled to his team doing well, or all the rules being followed perfectly, or anything beyond a pro football game and a seat from which to watch it, and he had been provided that. Finally they ruled they had no interest in second guessing the NFL's actions or internal structure for dealing with alleged rule violations.

Which, by the way, is in many ways the basis for the later ruling against Brady, where that was really just amended by adding a "whether proven to be real or not".

Beyond the statement that the courts agreed with the Jets (the lawsuit was against the NFL and Belichick not the Jets), the statement the courts agreed it's not a sport (rather they compared it to virtually every sport under the sun), the statement they ruled it was just entertainment (they ruled they're entitled to a real NFL game, but that had happened here), and the statement the NFL is free to influence it as much as they want (again they found the NFL DID have a contractual obligation to a real NFL game, and cited their punishment of rules violations which would otherwise affect the competitive integrity of the game as fulfillment of that obligation), you got the rest of it right. :-)
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GloryDayz 09:07 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Giant Octopodes:
That's just not true, at all. Like, even a little bit.

If you want to know the truth, and not just accept stories fed to you, feel free to read up on the court decision yourself.

Google the following, it's the top link:
mayer v belichick findlaw 1524532

I'll attempt to provide cliff notes for the reading challenged. I'll wrap them in spoilers tags since I expect this to be pretty long:

Spoiler!


Bolded the most important parts where they explain their findings and reasoning. Again though don't take my word for it, read it for yourself. At no time and in no way did they rule the NFL is entertainment not a sport. At no time in no way did they equate it to the WWE or WWF. At no time did they rule the NFL is free to fix games or provide a steered outcome outside the bounds of their rules.

Instead what they ruled is that in the NFL, like all pro sports, cheating happens. They ruled that the NFL had acted appropriately within the bounds of its own structure and rules to deal with the cheating, and had still provided a NFL pro football game to the plaintiff, which is all he was entitled to. They ruled he was not entitled to his team doing well, or all the rules being followed perfectly, or anything beyond a pro football game and a seat from which to watch it, and he had been provided that. Finally they ruled they had no interest in second guessing the NFL's actions or internal structure for dealing with alleged rule violations.

Which, by the way, is in many ways the basis for the later ruling against Brady, where that was really just amended by adding a "whether proven to be real or not".

Beyond the statement that the courts agreed with the Jets (the lawsuit was against the NFL and Belichick not the Jets), the statement the courts agreed it's not a sport (rather they compared it to virtually every sport under the sun), the statement they ruled it was just entertainment (they ruled they're entitled to a real NFL game, but that had happened here), and the statement the NFL is free to influence it as much as they want (again they found the NFL DID have a contractual obligation to a real NFL game, and cited their punishment of rules violations which would otherwise affect the competitive integrity of the game as fulfillment of that obligation), you got the rest of it right. :-)
Keep your Casino cash, we're all going to need it as the NFL steers/influences outcomes to creates favorable storylines and dramas.
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Giant Octopodes 09:12 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by GloryDayz:
Keep your Casino cash, we're all going to need it as the NFL steers/influences outcomes to creates favorable storylines and dramas.
Man I had my money on a response where you link an article about someone saying something differently, trusting that 3rd hand source more than the actual court decision itself and subbing in their judgement for your own.

I see I was wrong to expect so much, instead I get a trite response where you ignore how incredibly wrong you are entirely and repeat your assertions despite direct evidence to the contrary as though truth and fact don't matter, all you need to do is repeat something enough times and it becomes "your truth", which in turn is just as good as the actual truth, right?

Hey you do you buddy. Keep on believing whatever you want, even though it's blatantly and demonstrably incorrect. At least those who choose can research for themselves and learn the actual, factual truth, like the one that coincides with the version of reality we actually live in.
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GloryDayz 09:14 PM 02-15-2021
Originally Posted by Giant Octopodes:
Man I had my money on a response where you link an article about someone saying something differently, trusting that 3rd hand source more than the actual court decision itself and subbing in their judgement for your own.

I see I was wrong to expect so much, instead I get a trite response where you ignore how incredibly wrong you are entirely and repeat your assertions despite direct evidence to the contrary as though truth and fact don't matter, all you need to do is repeat something enough times and it becomes "your truth", which in turn is just as good as the actual truth, right?

Hey you do you buddy. Keep on believing whatever you want, even though it's blatantly and demonstrably incorrect. At least those who choose can research for themselves and learn the actual, factual truth, like the one that coincides with the version of reality we actually live in.
Well I think you make that terribad 3-word reply a lot longer than you needed.
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rtmike 12:07 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Sore losers?

..

In general. Not here.

We haven't lost enough to be too down on the team. Its at least how I feel.

I just never realized it's that blatant.



And those texts from the self proclaimed "the deflator", wow. No wonder Brady destroyed his phone.


I'm of the opinion the NFL done all this bs to prove they're the top sport, concussions be damned. Brady getting #7 cemented GOAT status bumping mj. Mission accomplished.

See now I feel like I'm being a crybaby, lol.
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Red Dawg 01:37 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by Giant Octopodes:
Yep so much invested in it that they suspended him for 4 games for something that didn't happen and spent a full year dragging his name through the mud. They argued in court it didn't matter there was no evidence of wrongdoing, they can do whatever they want to whomever they want and need no evidence or justification for doing so. There's documentaries out showing how they deliberately leaked false info to the media to spread a false narrative before and during the events in question. But yep, they sure do love Brady, and him continuing to win is such a good look that definitely increases viewer interest and sales, just look at the merchandise and ratings trends...

:-) :-) :-)
No evidence? You stupid mother fucker. There was a mountain of evidence, that's why he lost in court.
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bowener 01:59 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Buccaneers were the beneficiary of 27 PI calls this 2020 season, Kansas City received 4.

No other team had more than 19 (Miami/Pittsburgh) and 28 teams had less than 15.

Buccaneers were the beneficiary of 12 PI last year with Winston throwing for over 5000 yards...

Brady's Bucs received 15 more PI calls than the same team did last season...and set an NFL record.

Brady had 12 more PI calls than 28 other teams....16 more than 21 teams. He was essentially getting twice the PI calls of nearly every other franchise...and 7 times the amount as Mahomes.

25 teams had 11 or less...

Numbers dont lie...only the media about Brady's "greatness"

Chiefs were called for 2 PIs in one quarter of the SB...they only had their opponents flagged 4 times all year.
Did you compile these stats on your own using NFLPENALTIES.COM of something? Your stats are being reposted around different sports forums so I was growing more curious where the numbers came from.
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BlackOp 03:44 PM 02-16-2021
Originally Posted by bowener:
Did you compile these stats on your own using NFLPENALTIES.COM of something? Your stats are being reposted around different sports forums so I was growing more curious where the numbers came from.
Yes...look at the top right where it says "beneficiary"

https://www.nflpenalties.com/penalty...2020&view=team

The use of PI calls are the most devastating penalty in the sport.

Brady's Bucs didn't just break the record...they demolished it.

(I posted the following earlier in this thread)

There was only one team, going back a decade, that even had 20.

That team was the fluke 12-4 2016 Raiders...it was their only winning season in 17 years. To illustrate how impactful the gratuitous use of PI is...
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