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The Marty Lounge>Brady received 27 PI calls in 2020
BlackOp 04:15 PM 02-11-2021
Buccaneers were the beneficiary of 27 PI calls this 2020 season, Kansas City received 4.

No other team had more than 19 (Miami/Pittsburgh) and 28 teams had less than 15.

Buccaneers were the beneficiary of 12 PI last year with Winston throwing for over 5000 yards...

Brady's Bucs received 15 more PI calls than the same team did last season...and set an NFL record.

Brady had 12 more PI calls than 28 other teams....16 more than 21 teams. He was essentially getting twice the PI calls of nearly every other franchise...and 7 times the amount as Mahomes.

25 teams had 11 or less...

Numbers dont lie...only the media about Brady's "greatness"

Chiefs were called for 2 PIs in one quarter of the SB...they only had their opponents flagged 4 times all year.
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rabblerouser 08:26 AM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by 2112:
The NY Jets are to blame for the beginning of this. Knocking out Bledsoe during the 2001 season and letting Brady play. and If the Jets don’t beat the Raiders on the last game of the 2001 season (only to lay down for them the following week) the Raiders get the bye and home field advantage instead of the Patriots. And the Patriots wouldn’t have beaten them in Oakland even if they got by their first round opponent.
Belichick was planning on replacing Bledsoe eventually anyway- Mo Lewis just forced the situation by almost killing Bledsoe.
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rabblerouser 08:31 AM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint:
If only there was a history of several tampering, fines & loss of draft picks
The NFL : "Okay, we'll fine you and strip you of draft picks, but it won't matter because all the calls will go your way."

Whatever team Tom Brady is on : "So we get to win the Super Bowl?"

The NFL : "Yes."

Brady's team : "You crazy son of a bitch, we're in."
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OrtonsPiercedTaint 09:56 AM 02-13-2021
Fucking Refs Always Undermine Deficts
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GoChargers 10:02 AM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Belichick was planning on replacing Bledsoe eventually anyway- Mo Lewis just forced the situation by almost killing Bledsoe.
They gave Bledsoe a ten-year, $103 million contract in the offseason, then they released their presumed "QB of the future" at the time (Michael Bishop) during training camp. They were all in on Bledsoe until he got Wally Pipped.

Funnily enough, if they hadn't lucked into a Super Bowl that season, Belichick would have been fired. The choice to stick with Brady over Bledsoe in the playoffs would have been viewed similarly to when Wade Phillips started Rob Johnson over Flutie.
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DJJasonp 10:14 AM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
This will never change no matter how much light is shown on it..,

Like it or not...the NFL is in bed with Vegas. They have their mainstream bobble heads discussing point spreads now...this is a new development.

The flexibility to change how a game is called on any given week/game allows them to control the spread.

They created their own cable channel and filled it with apologists....company men. It's pretty brilliant...they can do all kinds of suspect shit and have former players whitewash it away..especially when they either completely ignore it..or all act in agreement. It's literally a page out of state sponsored news.

Like Simms said.."If they called the NFCCG like they called the SB...the Packers would have won".

The thing is they only changed up how it was called for the Chiefs....hence the record amount of penalties in SB history. Bucs were still aggressive with Kelce..

And like throughout his bullshit career...Brady benefited from these changes...it didn't affect his team at all. Brady is always on the winning side when it comes to suspect officiating.

I outlined his past 4 CCG/SBs...and it reflects this fact.
I'll just leave this nugget here (remember how "great" the officiating was in the raiders game??)

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports...books-2147370/



By Todd Dewey Las Vegas Review-Journal
October 11, 2020 - 8:08 pm


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Updated October 11, 2020 - 9:33 pm
Leave it to a team from Las Vegas to beat the odds and pull off the biggest upset of the NFL season.

The Raiders became the first double-digit underdog to earn an outright win when they stunned the Chiefs in a 40-32 victory at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday after closing as 10½-point underdogs.

In dealing defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City (4-1) its first loss, Las Vegas (3-2) delivered the biggest win of the NFL season to the Westgate sportsbook, which won six figures on the game.

“There were so many money-line bets on the Chiefs and a lot of teasers. It felt like every money-line parlay included the Chiefs,” Westgate vice president Jay Kornegay said. “It wouldn’t have surprised me if the Raiders covered. But to win outright and pretty much in comfortable fashion, that was certainly surprising.”

Derek Carr outplayed Patrick Mahomes in his first win in seven games at Kansas City. Carr threw three touchdown passes in the second quarter, including strikes of 59 yards to Nelson Agholor and 72 yards to Henry Ruggs, to rally the Raiders from an early 14-3 deficit.

Las Vegas scored the first 16 points of the second half to break open a 24-24 game and held on for the win to end a seven-game losing streak in K.C.

“After their first game at Carolina, you can make a case that the Raiders had the four toughest games of any team having to play the Saints, Bills, Patriots and Chiefs,” Sunset Station sportsbook director Chuck Esposito said. “The fact they went 2-2 is a victory for the Raiders. That’s a huge, huge win. And they go into their bye week now, which gives guys like Ruggs and Bryan Edwards a chance to get healthy.”


Las Vegas’ upset also was a big win for Station, William Hill and BetMGM — despite the fact that a BetMGM bettor won $100,000 on a straight bet on the Raiders and a William Hill bettor won $50,000 on a wager on the game to go over 56½.

“It’s certainly going to be very interesting moving forward to see how fast that silver-and-black wagon fills up because if they continue to win, we know their popularity will escalate,” Kornegay said. “We saw it four years ago when they made the playoffs. That season was crazy. Every week, the Raiders were the biggest game.


“I have a feeling if they put a good stretch together, their popularity will go through the roof.”

Big day for books

The books had one of their best days of the season so far, also winning big on outright upsets by the Panthers (+2½, 23-16 over Falcons) and Dolphins (+8, 43-17 over 49ers).

“For some reason everybody was on the Falcons this week,” Kornegay said. “A winless team yet they’ve received a lot of support.”

After blowing double-digit fourth quarter leads in Weeks 2 and 3, Atlanta went into meltdown mode early Sunday, taking a 7-0 lead in the first quarter before giving up 20 consecutive points to Carolina before halftime.

San Francisco got quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo and tight end George Kittle back but were still whipped by Miami. Dolphins QB Ryan Fitzpatrick finally conjured some “Fitzmagic” in throwing for 350 yards and three TDs. Jimmy GQ looked awful as he went 7 of 17 for 77 yards and two interceptions before he was benched in the second half.

A BetMGM bettor placed a $290,000 straight bet on Seattle (-6½) over Minnesota on “Sunday Night Football.” Before the game, Stoneback said “it could very easily be our best day of the year.”
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Giant Octopodes 12:04 PM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
1. Montana : 4-0 in Super Bowls...and did not throw a single interception in any of them. Absolute perfection. Injuries derailed his career, but he played during an era when QBs got the dogslobber knocked out of them. Tom wouldn't have played to 35 in that era, much less to 43.

2. Steve Young only has 1 Super Bowl victory that I recall. Maybe you're talking about someone else?
Steve Young has 3 rings. 1 as a starting QB. 1 from a team he played on but for a game he didn't play in. However the 3rd, 1989, he played in the Super Bowl and his team won. Sure he only had 3 passes, but Mecole Hardman only had 1 catch in Super Bowl 54. Still a Super Bowl champion with a Super Bowl win under his belt, right?

You can not count it if you want. When comparing QBs directly it makes sense to only talk about Super Bowl wins with them as a starter so you're comparing apples to apples. But you've got to admit, technically, Steve Young has multiple Super Bowl wins :-)
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BDj23 12:56 PM 02-13-2021
It may not be outright rigged, but the refs sure do a fucking lot to help out Brady
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Jimkcchief88 12:56 PM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by stevegroganfan:
If Brady isn't close to best quarterback in NFL history, name 5 quarterbacks in NFL history better than him.
Joe Montana, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, Dan Marino. Aaron Rodger... and it only took me about 10 seconds....
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rabblerouser 07:27 PM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by GoChargers:
They gave Bledsoe a ten-year, $103 million contract in the offseason, then they released their presumed "QB of the future" at the time (Michael Bishop) during training camp. They were all in on Bledsoe until he got Wally Pipped.

Funnily enough, if they hadn't lucked into a Super Bowl that season, Belichick would have been fired. The choice to stick with Brady over Bledsoe in the playoffs would have been viewed similarly to when Wade Phillips started Rob Johnson over Flutie.
Drew Bledsoe = Elvis Grbac
Tom Brady = Rich Gannon
Michael Bishop = Pat Barnes

They didn't "luck" into a Super Bowl that season...that shit was as predetermined as any of them, especially in 2001, and BB had the good sense not to go back to GrBledsoe and stuck with GannBrady, first of all. Then, the "Tuck Rule" game. And in the SB, the refs let the NE DBs basically tackle the Rams receivers downfield.
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rabblerouser 07:28 PM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by BDj23:
It may not be outright rigged, but the refs sure do a ****ing lot to help out Brady
That, by definition, is "rigged", bro.
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Bugeater 07:42 PM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by BDj23:
It may not be outright rigged, but the refs sure do a fucking lot to help out Brady
No doubt about it, but again...why? I don't see how it's good for the game at all.
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Bugeater 07:45 PM 02-13-2021
Originally Posted by rabblerouser:
Drew Bledsoe = Elvis Grbac
Tom Brady = Rich Gannon
Michael Bishop = Pat Barnes

They didn't "luck" into a Super Bowl that season...that shit was as predetermined as any of them, especially in 2001, and BB had the good sense not to go back to GrBledsoe and stuck with GannBrady, first of all. Then, the "Tuck Rule" game. And in the SB, the refs let the NE DBs basically tackle the Rams receivers downfield.
I could definitely buy that the NFL liked the idea of them winning it all that year with them being the "Patriots" after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It was the perfect "feel good" story.

But after that, it's hard to see a reason seeing that they're a league that professes to promote parity.
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pugsnotdrugs19 08:21 PM 02-13-2021
A buddy of mine who isn’t a Chiefs fan was saying to me the other day how now Pat would have to win 8 rings to be the GOAT, and I’m just like... why?

Why the fuck do we only consider the rings? If that’s the case, Bill Russell is the greatest basketball player of all time by far with his 11 titles.

And if any sport should diminish the importance of them above others, it’s football. Where no one player is on the field more than half the time. You are so dependent on those around you - players and coaches both. Injuries derail seasons much more frequently too.

If Mahomes finishes his career out like we hope he will and should, he’s very likely going to break every passing record to exist. He will hopefully win at least another 2 titles, and of course we hope more.

If Brady ends up with more SBs than him or anyone else, all that means is he won more chips. Had more consistently great teams and coaches around him. Was the luckiest player to ever put on a pair of cleats. That’s it.

I mean, if we are being real, our own eyes can already tell us Mahomes is probably a better quarterback than Brady ever was.
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comochiefsfan 12:25 AM 02-14-2021
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
A buddy of mine who isn’t a Chiefs fan was saying to me the other day how now Pat would have to win 8 rings to be the GOAT, and I’m just like... why?

Why the **** do we only consider the rings? If that’s the case, Bill Russell is the greatest basketball player of all time by far with his 11 titles.

And if any sport should diminish the importance of them above others, it’s football. Where no one player is on the field more than half the time. You are so dependent on those around you - players and coaches both. Injuries derail seasons much more frequently too.

If Mahomes finishes his career out like we hope he will and should, he’s very likely going to break every passing record to exist. He will hopefully win at least another 2 titles, and of course we hope more.

If Brady ends up with more SBs than him or anyone else, all that means is he won more chips. Had more consistently great teams and coaches around him. Was the luckiest player to ever put on a pair of cleats. That’s it.

I mean, if we are being real, our own eyes can already tell us Mahomes is probably a better quarterback than Brady ever was.
Mahomes right now is a MUCH better quarterback than Brady has ever been.

Just watch the tape side by side. It's not even remotely close.
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OrtonsPiercedTaint 07:29 AM 02-14-2021
Do these dumbass owners still chase after Patriot Way coaches & office people. Poor Texans
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