Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
I don't believe that Pringle's presence on the roster should preclude the Chiefs from drafting an amazingly talented receiver from this class.
Pringle, who will turn 27 in November, is the very definition of a JAG.
This. Draft a quality WR and get rid of Watkins. Then after this year we can have Hill, Hardman and the rookie as our top 3. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Hydrae:
Adding Pringle into the mix and I think this means even without Sammy we can wait on WR until a bit later. Use the first three picks on some combination of LB, DB, IOL and go from there.
Yeah too many holes on Dee to use a early pick on a wr. You might have to ad DL to the list if we have not worked out a deal with Jones. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Shields68:
Yeah too many holes on Dee to use a early pick on a wr. You might have to ad DL to the list if we have not worked out a deal with Jones.
If the Chiefs dealt Jones, they'd receive at least one additional first round pick, so they would not be required to use #32 overall selection on a defensive tackle.
On top of that, never draft for need.
That's how teams end up with bad drafts and losing records year in and year out. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
If the Chiefs dealt Jones, they'd receive at least one additional first round pick, so they would not be required to use #32 overall selection on a defensive tackle.
On top of that, never draft for need.
That's how teams end up with bad drafts and losing records year in and year out.
That's like saying "Never go to the store and buy what you are looking for. Just buy any good deal you walk by." [Reply]
Originally Posted by Red Dawg:
Meh. Happy he's staying cheap buthes never gone past his nothing needed status.
What does this even mean?
Are you and OKchiefs the same guy? You both have to find something to criticize in every single thing this team does. Im eagerly awaiting the other idiot to come whine about not getting him for vet min or because the deal is fully guaranteed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 65TPT:
That's like saying "Never go to the store and buy what you are looking for. Just buy any good deal you walk by."
Absolutely false.
Reaching for a player in the draft because it's a "need" is how teams end up drafting guys like KeiVarae Russell, who was cut after his first Training Camp, or any number of first rounders that were chosen and later cut due to a "need".
Draft the Best Available Player, period. If that just happens to be a defensive player, fine but it's unlikely that will be the case at #32 overall, as this draft is loaded with Wide Receivers and running backs. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 65TPT:
That's like saying "Never go to the store and buy what you are looking for. Just buy any good deal you walk by."
If the Chiefs drafted for need in 2017, we wouldn't have Mahomes right now. We probably wouldn't have taken Chris Jones in 2016, either. And in the 2019 draft, we probably would have passed on one of Hardman, Thornhill, or Saunders so we could take a CB instead.
This is the NFL. You have to continually innovate. If all you do is fill needs on your team, you wind up with the Titans, going 9-7 every year and constantly doing nothing but treading water. [Reply]
Originally Posted by 65TPT:
That's like saying "Never go to the store and buy what you are looking for. Just buy any good deal you walk by."
Not really.
In football you are limited to a shopping list of 25 items. Some more valuable than others. Some you need more of than others.
Its not just best player available.
Its not best player available at a position of need.
Its talent, value, position, and need all wrapped in to every pick.
Early in the draft you better be looking for playmakers. The Chiefs are where they are at because they have nailed finding playmakers all over the draft, Mahomes in Rd 1, Jones in Rd 2, Kelce Rd 3, Hill Rd 5, and on and on. [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
Absolutely false.
Reaching for a player in the draft because it's a "need" is how teams end up drafting guys like KeiVarae Russell, who was cut after his first Training Camp, or any number of first rounders that were chosen and later cut due to a "need".
Draft the Best Available Player, period. If that just happens to be a defensive player, fine but it's unlikely that will be the case at #32 overall, as this draft is loaded with Wide Receivers and running backs.
It's not that cut and dry. As a general overall philosophy you take the best player available, but there are always variables that can create exceptions to the rule. When we had Priest and LJ both playing well would you have wanted a RB if that was the BPA with that joke of a defense we were fielding? [Reply]
Originally Posted by candyman:
It's not that cut and dry. As a general overall philosophy you take the best player available, but there are always variables that can create exceptions to the rule. When we had Priest and LJ both playing well would you have wanted a RB if that was the BPA with that joke of a defense?
The Chiefs drafted LJ while Priest was in his prime.
Ignoring the BPA is how the Chiefs ended up with Ryan Sims, Junior Siavii, Tank, Turk and a whole shitload of worthless players.