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Nzoner's Game Room>Official 2017 STL Cardinals Thread
BigRedChief 08:06 PM 01-27-2017
My as well get it started. Here's my "Matheny" lineup.....

Fowler CF
Diaz SS
Carpenter 1B
Piscotty RF
Grichuk LF
Molina C
Peralta 3B
Wong 2B
Pitcher

My "Matheny" Starting rotation

Martinez
Reyes
Wainwright
Lynn
Leake
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raybec 4 10:10 PM 04-02-2017
Shitty defense was a real problem last year, it's opening day and it's already a problem again
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raybec 4 10:12 PM 04-02-2017
Kid Randall
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bdj23 10:12 PM 04-02-2017
Ayyyy
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raybec 4 10:12 PM 04-02-2017
Martinez was nails tonight
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jd1020 10:13 PM 04-02-2017
Another walk to set up the game winning hit.
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kcpasco 10:14 PM 04-02-2017
Originally Posted by jd1020:
That IBB rule just seems awkward.
I agree, I don't like it at all.
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Frazod 10:23 PM 04-02-2017
Originally Posted by raybec 4:
Martinez was nails tonight
Glad he was. Jesus, could they have possibly stranded any more fucking runners? That was uglier than a bulldog's asshole. :-)
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jd1020 10:29 PM 04-02-2017
Originally Posted by kcpasco:
I agree, I don't like it at all.
I don't see why they couldn't just implement what video games have been doing for a long time now... 1 pitch with the catcher signaling for a walk. At least then you would still get the feeling of an at bat.
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DJ's left nut 10:37 PM 04-02-2017
That last AB demonstrates why Grichuk can't bat 8th. Hell, his HR did as well.

In the 8th, Oh had already been doubled switched into the cleanup spot (because Matheny is retarded). But the unintentional consequence of that was to ensure that there's someone that can actually swing a bat behind Grichuk. So what happened? He got the strike he needs to do damage.

In the 9th with the bases loaded and nowhere to put him, of course he was going to get at least one pitch to hit.

Randall Grichuk is just so damn dangerous when he gets a strike that one of the very first considerations for Mike Matheny when putting together a lineup should be "will this get Randall Grichuk at least 2 pitches to hit today?"

Because the guy has genuinely game-changing power. And if you bat him 8th, teams will pitch around him any chance they get. Why throw him a strike when the pitcher's behind him and he has a below average O-Strike rate? He's a guy that will chase pitches and if you put him in the 8 hole pitchers are all the more likely to throw slop up there to get him to get himself out. Worst case scenario is they walk him and the pitcher strands him.

It's ridiculous that Grichuk was batting 8 today. It's literally the single worst spot in the entire lineup for him, including leadoff.
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kcpasco 10:43 PM 04-02-2017
I don't have any idea who should bat cleanup but I hope it's not Peralta all year.
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O.city 08:21 AM 04-03-2017
Originally Posted by kcpasco:
I don't have any idea who should bat cleanup but I hope it's not Peralta all year.
As DJ mentioned above, the 8 hole ain't for Randal, I don't think the 4 spot is ether, but that's where I'd hit him. With the top 3 in the order currently as constructed, the cleanup guy is gonna have a fuck ton of guys on base in front of him all year.

Put grichuk there.
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Marcellus 08:24 AM 04-03-2017
Originally Posted by O.city:
As DJ mentioned above, the 8 hole ain't for Randal, I don't think the 4 spot is ether, but that's where I'd hit him. With the top 3 in the order currently as constructed, the cleanup guy is gonna have a **** ton of guys on base in front of him all year.

Put grichuk there.
Why not Piscotty? I think he strikes out less.

He will end up there in the end unless he regresses.
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O.city 08:25 AM 04-03-2017
I would imagine piscotty ends up there, and striking out kills, but I'd like to see grichuk hit as much as possible with guys in base
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Marcellus 08:37 AM 04-03-2017
Originally Posted by O.city:
I would imagine piscotty ends up there, and striking out kills, but I'd like to see grichuk hit as much as possible with guys in base
Piscotty hit .362 With RISP last year. Its a natural spot for him.
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Marcellus 08:41 AM 04-03-2017
And right on cue the Cards sign Piscotty to an extension.
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