Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by Donger:
I don't know if you did or didn't. But it is political. All you have to do is listen to Carlson's intro.
Yeah cause my preface of Dr. Siegel might not agree with you wasn't enough to clarify the point I was making which had absolutely nothing to do with politics.
Who gives a flying **** about Calrson? Did I mention him at all? Did you actually read the ****ing article, douche? If you want to get ****ing political you would see there was also a Democrat in there saying the similar to Siegel.
As I said, you see what you want to see. I am done with you for the day. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Reality is people on the ground saying it is working, reality is governments acquiring the drug in massive amounts.
Evidence of it being effective does exist. You choose to wait for a "official" report. Thats fine but claiming there is zero evidence is a outright lie.
Bullshit.
Complete and utter fucking bullshit.
And here's a simple truth: If your claim was true (it's not), then why do thousands continue to die per day? [Reply]
Originally Posted by SupDock:
I dont need to prove something didn't work when there is not evidence that it did work. That's not how the burden of proof works here
I am hopeful it will prove effective, but there isn't nearly enough evidence at this point.
There are plenty of people taking supplements that don't do anything, and are claiming they are miracle drugs.
Okay, sick person was given said drug. Sick person suddenly became not so sick. You have no proof said drug didn't make Sick person less sick so then it must have not worked. What a fucking coinkydink! [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Yes, that is what made your question and assumption. No it ins't. It's you making an asinine assumption to try and play your typical bullshit games.
No pete. This isn't hard. I made an assumption based on you posting that political video and asked you if that assumption was correct. That's the question.
It's not asinine at all. And you can clear it up with a single word. Will you? (that's the same question, BTW). [Reply]
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
It's not safe for everyone, moron and there's been absolutely ZERO confirmed proof by a peer reviewed study that states otherwise.
And stop with this shit. Your ass should have been booted a LONG time ago but for some reason, the Mods either don't understand your coded posts or just don't care.
But stop with the conspiracy ****ing horseshit.
lmao I get it you are upset, my "coded" posts are not very coded. I believe the drug is working. You don't, and will continue to not believe it works till you are overwhelmed with evidence.
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Pretty amazing people keep clinging to the "zero evidence" argument.
It's not so amazing to see the normal DC conspirators claim that it's working when in fact, there is absolutely no peer-reviewed evidence that its working.
I'll ask you: Why are thousands of people continuing to die if this drug combo is effective in slowing down the duplication of the virus? [Reply]
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Yeah cause my preface of Dr. Siegel might not agree with you wasn't enough to clarify the point I was making which had absolutely nothing to do with politics.
Who gives a flying **** about Calrson? Did I mention him at all? Did you actually read the ****ing article, douche? If you want to get ****ing political you would see there was also a Democrat in there saying the similar to Siegel.
As I said, you see what you want to see. I am done with you for the day.
You posted a video of his show. Beats me. And in that intro that you posted, it was inherently political.
What point were you making, just out of curiosity? [Reply]
I don't understand what you DC types get out of this kind of discussion. I find the thread to be pretty much unreadable when you guys get on a roll like this. [Reply]