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Msmith 08:37 PM 11-19-2019
The latest: over thousand of students occupied the university and fought against the police.

Link:https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/11/2...acuate-campus/
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BucEyedPea 08:44 PM 11-29-2019
Originally Posted by alanm:
Obama was wrong about a lot of shit. :-)
He sure was. He was wrong on Libya, Yemen, Syria and Ukraine which he overthrew. Whatta' pussy he was!
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BucEyedPea 10:01 PM 11-29-2019
American Exceptionalism Driving World to War~John Pilger

John Pilger also gives his wide-ranging views on the systematic deterioration of Western mainstream journalism which has come to function as a nakedly propaganda matrix for power and corporate profit.

... world is arguably at a more perilous geopolitical juncture than even during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 at the height of the Cold War.

This is because American “exceptionalism” – which, he points out, mirrors that of Nazi Germany – has developed into a hyper-rogue phase.
[ Too much power corrupts.] The relentless denigration of Russia by American and Western media show that there are few red lines left to restrain aggression towards Moscow, as there were, at least, during the past Cold War. Russia and China’s refusal to bow down to Washington’s dictate is infuriating the would-be American hegemon and its desire for zero-sum world domination.

Question: With the arrest of Julian Assange and other independent journalists like Max Blumenthal in the US who exposed Washington’s regime-change crimes in Venezuela, and given the silent indifference of Western media, do you think it is a real concern that the US is sliding towards police-state fascism?

John Pilger:
Some would argue the slide has happened.

Question:
With the arrest of Julian Assange and other independent journalists like Max Blumenthal in the US who exposed Washington’s regime-change crimes in Venezuela, and given the silent indifference of Western media, do you think it is a real concern that the US is sliding towards police-state fascism?

John Pilger: Some would argue the slide has happened.
[I agree.]
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neech 10:30 PM 11-29-2019
I'm fear the protesters will win the battle but lose the war.

China has time on their side and an army.
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BucEyedPea 10:56 PM 11-29-2019
Originally Posted by neech:
I'm fear the protesters will win the battle but lose the war.

China has time on their side and an army.
The original protests over the extradition issue, were grassroots and peaceful. It was US covert-ops using NGOs that do this sort of thing ww and Deep State intel that turned into violence which then drew in the Chinese. Trump wasn't going to interfere in it. Then he signed that bill congress passed which angered the Chinese even more—now no trade deal at all.
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BucEyedPea 11:02 PM 11-29-2019
I posted the evidence of the National Endowment for Democracy ( NGO) before and their involvement in HongKong.
A visit to the NED’s website reveals an entire section of declared funding for Hong Kong specifically. The wording for program titles and their descriptions is intentionally ambiguous to give those like US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo plausible deniability.

However, deeper research reveals NED recipients are literally leading the protests.

https://www.ned.org/region/asia/hong-kong-china-2018/
They claim to support freedom around the world via democracy as if democracy provides freedom. That's right out of GW Bush's 2nd Inaugural Address. It's a NeoCon outfit. They were also involved in the Ukraine overthrow under Obama.

Globalists still pushing their NWO.
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neech 11:07 PM 11-29-2019
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
I posted the evidence of the National Endowment for Democracy ( NGO) before and their involvement in HongKong.
A visit to the NED’s website reveals an entire section of declared funding for Hong Kong specifically. The wording for program titles and their descriptions is intentionally ambiguous to give those like US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo plausible deniability.

However, deeper research reveals NED recipients are literally leading the protests.

https://www.ned.org/region/asia/hong-kong-china-2018/
They claim to support freedom around the world via democracy as if democracy provides freedom. That's right out of GW Bush's 2nd Inaugural Address. It's a NeoCon outfit. They were also involved in the Ukraine overthrow under Obama.

Globalists still pushing their NWO.
A thousand points of light.

BEP you don't want to know my thoughts on that man.
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BucEyedPea 11:14 PM 11-29-2019
These [violent protests] are being perpetrated by the so-called “Block Bloc,” roving bands of mask-wearing, police-tactic defying vandals attacking randomly around the city to disrupt people going to work.

And the soldiers are radicalized kids in uniforms bonking old men on the heads with sticks and taunting cops.

Sound familiar? Because that’s what’s going on in places like Portland, Oregon with Antifa. Except in Portland the government is the one turning a blind eye to the growing violence in pursuit of the cause.

But, in my mind, it’s clear that there is a much larger game afoot here than just Hong Kong.

https://tomluongo.me/2019/10/14/vict...ong-kong-plan/

They look just like Antifa too.

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BucEyedPea 11:24 PM 11-29-2019
Now who is behind "Black Block"
Jimmy Lai, billionaire publisher of the pro-democracy Apple Daily and highly visible interlocutor of official Washington, DC, notables such as US Vice President Mike Pence, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, and ex-National Security Council head John Bolton, is telling us what the strategy is here.

Lai spoke with Bloomberg TV’s Stephen Engle from his Kowloon home.

He pronounced himself convinced that – if protests turned violent China would have no choice but to send People’s Armed Police units from Shenzen into Hong Kong to put down unrest.

“That,” he said on Bloomberg TV, “will be a repeat of the Tiananmen Square massacre and that will bring in the whole world against China….. Hong Kong will be done, and … China will be done, too.”

http://thesaker.is/behind-hong-kongs-black-terror/
China's economy is hurting. They will not survive on their own. No need to be pay black masked thugs to gaslight the scene. Don't believe Fake News.
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neech 09:34 AM 11-30-2019
Thanks for your most valued input on the subject BEP, those are good articles you provided.
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Msmith 11:06 AM 11-30-2019
If China sends in the troop to take over Hong Kong, what is done will be the idea of unification of Taiwan thru political mean. Which would leave China the only option for it to take back Taiwan, thru military.

The success of such operation would largely depend on two factors: the involvement of the western world and the Taiwan's willingness to fight. These two factors are actually dependent to each other.

Even if China is successful in carrying such operation with minimal cost, the outcome may not be rosy for its future. Remember what happened after the conclusion of Vietnam war, in three years time China and Vietnam tore at each other's throat. If the US stands by and does nothing, someone else will act. This time the next adversary for China could be Russia, NK, Vietnam, or India. Could this be only limited in small scale arm conflict or nuclear exchange, nobody will know.
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BucEyedPea 04:20 PM 11-30-2019
Stop reading propaganda. This is op is designed to reduce and weaken China's power, especially economically.
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Easy 6 04:39 PM 11-30-2019
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea:
American Exceptionalism Driving World to War~John Pilger

John Pilger also gives his wide-ranging views on the systematic deterioration of Western mainstream journalism which has come to function as a nakedly propaganda matrix for power and corporate profit.

... world is arguably at a more perilous geopolitical juncture than even during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 at the height of the Cold War.

This is because American “exceptionalism” – which, he points out, mirrors that of Nazi Germany – has developed into a hyper-rogue phase.
[ Too much power corrupts.] The relentless denigration of Russia by American and Western media show that there are few red lines left to restrain aggression towards Moscow, as there were, at least, during the past Cold War. Russia and China’s refusal to bow down to Washington’s dictate is infuriating the would-be American hegemon and its desire for zero-sum world domination.

Question: With the arrest of Julian Assange and other independent journalists like Max Blumenthal in the US who exposed Washington’s regime-change crimes in Venezuela, and given the silent indifference of Western media, do you think it is a real concern that the US is sliding towards police-state fascism?

John Pilger:
Some would argue the slide has happened.

Question:
With the arrest of Julian Assange and other independent journalists like Max Blumenthal in the US who exposed Washington’s regime-change crimes in Venezuela, and given the silent indifference of Western media, do you think it is a real concern that the US is sliding towards police-state fascism?

John Pilger: Some would argue the slide has happened.
[I agree.]
Regime change crimes in Venezuela?

For Gods sake BEP dont buy into that horseshit, they elected a new leader and Maduro refused to step down... I fully support anything we do/did to get his ass out
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BucEyedPea 03:11 AM 12-02-2019
Originally Posted by Easy 6:
Regime change crimes in Venezuela?
Yes! I posted links earlier in the threads on it. Sanctions are starving the people in that country and has not harmed Maduro. I am not saying their socialism hasn't been a problem but our sanctions have worsened their problems and increased starvation of the Venezuelan people.That is a form of warfare because people die under sanctions—the very people exceptionalists claim to be helping. It's no different than old fashion siege warfare.

Originally Posted by :
For Gods sake BEP dont buy into that horseshit, they elected a new leader and Maduro refused to step down... I fully support anything we do/did to get his ass out
For God's sake stop projecting, by being one of the Kool-Aid drinkers on this topic. Your information is wrong and is Fake News. The people of Venezuela electedMaduro. It was outside countries including the US, that refused to recognize his election win. Juan Guaidó was NOT elected—he simply declared himself the new leader in defiance. He's a socialist too. Maduro didn't accept it because he won the election—an election that the opposition boycotted. You can't win if you don't run. And don't give me this Fake News crap that the election wasn't valid because it was monitored by outsiders and deemed fair.

Don't believe everything you read—especially when it comes from the US government and especially on foreign interventions.
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BucEyedPea 03:25 AM 12-02-2019
BTW Juan Guaidó was elected is the president of the National Assembly, a body that is controlled by the opposition. That's different.
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Megatron96 06:51 PM 12-03-2019
Bet they wish they had the 2nd Amendment over there now . . .
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