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Washington DC and The Holy Land>If Biden Chooses a female running mate, is that going to hurt him
El Lobo Gordo 04:29 PM 05-21-2020
Biden has pledged to choose a female to be his running mate. Is that going to hurt him or help him?

Some people are voting for Biden are actually voting for not Trump. To this group it doesn't matter who Biden chooses. Other people will vote for Trump because they are voting for not a democrat. To this group it also doesn't matter who Biden is choosing. Then you have the rest and to them it may matter.

Now normally people who decide the election don't look to closely at the bottom of the ticket. This election is different. Biden is clearly in decline and that may prompt people to consider his running mate a little more carefully.

Only one of three possibilities about the country are true:
1. The country is biased against having a female president.
2. The country is indifferent about having a female president.
3. The country is biased in favor of having a female president.

Now I don't know which one of those possibilities is true. My guess is it is number 1 that is true. If the country is biased against having a female president and if the country is going to look more closely at the bottom of the Democrat ticket because Biden is in mental decline, then it is probably a strategic mistake for him to choose a female to be his running mate.

What are your thoughts?
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El Lobo Gordo 09:15 PM 05-21-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
You are giving far too much credence to the notion that whites everywhere were too racist to vote for Obama. In fact, Obama was pulling in white votes all over the place, as Dems picked up 3 million more white votes in 2008 than in 2004.
It would be ridiculous to claim that democrats picked up 3 million white votes because Obama is black. You are arguing that since the democrats picked up 3 million white votes, there was no racial animus Obama needed to overcome or that his race was not a disadvantage. That's not a good argument.

Elections results/performance are multi-variant problems. A voter, who is biased against blacks, can still be convinced to vote for a black candidate. The democrats ran a better campaign than the republicans and that could be why they picked up 3 million more white votes. Maybe they would have gotten even more if Obama was white.

Also it is not just whites who harbor animus toward blacks. Even blacks show racial animus against against blacks when racial animus is tested. Racial animus exists. The surveys suggest it played only a small role in the 2008 election but that result only makes sense if very little racial animus exists. Google search data suggest a lot of racial animus still exists.
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vailpass 09:17 PM 05-21-2020
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
It's what your moms taught me, among other things.
We both have two moms? Are mine hot?
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cosmo20002 09:47 PM 05-21-2020
Originally Posted by vailpass:
We both have two moms? Are mine hot?
One more so than the other, but you take the good with the bad in some situations.
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Eleazar 10:32 PM 05-21-2020
Originally Posted by Taco John:
No, they'll be taking on Trump at the height of his.
You think Trump's going to do better than 49 states?
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vailpass 10:47 PM 05-21-2020
Originally Posted by cosmo20002:
One more so than the other, but you take the good with the bad in some situations.
If I got one hot one out of the deal I guess I can’t complain. I hope she’s the one who nursed me.
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F150 05:13 AM 05-22-2020
He has no option but a black woman.

If the black people don't vote, the dems crash and burn.

Obama wants the spotlight but his track record of campaigning for others sucks....fact is Obama will likely energize the wrong people.

If people think they are voting for VEEP to become President, Biden is screwed. After the Obama experiment, people dont want a black president much less a black woman.

If Biden wins it will be Trumps fault. Biden has to be the worst candidate ever.
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neech 06:18 AM 05-22-2020
Originally Posted by LOCOChief:
Who the hell knows what people that would vote for Biden would prefer, maybe a tranny.
Michelle Obama is available.
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scho63 06:46 AM 05-22-2020
Originally Posted by F150:
If Biden wins it will be Trumps fault. Biden has to be the worst candidate ever.
1. The media's fault more so

2. Hillary Clinton is really hoping he loses to take the pressure off her for losing to Trump
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F150 06:48 AM 05-22-2020
Originally Posted by jerryaldini:
Only hurts him with the rednecks driving the big flag trucks, and their women, especially the ones that are rolling coal. My favorite Trumpers

How is your Prius running?
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Merde Furieux 09:37 AM 05-22-2020
No Matter Who Biden Picks, His Running Mate Will Be A ‘Karen’

We’re still at least a month away from Joe Biden announcing who his running mate will be for the 2020 election. It’s hard to tell which way he’s leaning, but no matter who he chooses, it will be “Karen.”

Applying “Karen” as a pejorative is not as fresh as it might seem. Some uses of the name to describe a spiteful, unpleasant woman go back maybe as far as three decades. But the name has been more widely used as a cultural meme in recent months.

With apologies to those named Karen but aren’t “Karens,” a “Karen” in 2020 is, “an entitled, obnoxious, middle-aged white woman,” says dictionary.com. Wikipedia says a Karen “displays aggressive behavior when she is obstructed from getting her way.” She often wants to “speak to the manager” because it’s her nature to complain, hector, and rage. During the pandemic, we’ve seen Karens all over, screeching and nagging about masks, social distancing (both for and against it and on occasion taking both sides simultaneously), and any conduct she doesn’t agree with.

A Karen is a tattletale and a snob, mean girl who got older but didn’t grow up. And her defining traits, bullying, a desire to subjugate others, and rank hypocrisy, fit snugly with progressive-left politics.

Biden, guided by the identity politics of his party, has promised that his choice for running mate will be a woman. It’s said he’s looking hard at at least five candidates and maybe as many as eight. So who makes up this field of possibilities?

Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Maybe the most Karen of them all. Given the pulpit of a vice presidential candidate, and, Heaven help us, possibly the soapbox of the vice presidency, she will constantly howl about economic inequality, Wall Street, profit, and just about any principle that has made America the exceptional nation it is.

“She is a nag. A scold. An ideologue,” law professor Michael Greve wrote in 2012 when Warren was running for U.S. senator in Massachusetts. “An advocate of a nanny state beyond a Swedish socialist’s wildest imagination. A bureaucratic Bruegel who paints an America of victims — pathetic figures in a landscape of unremitting hostility. Also, professor Warren is an economic idiot.”

Sen. Kamala Harris. The junior senator from California isn’t white, but she does relish managing the lives of others, as does any good Karen. She’s also an unpleasant person. Fox News’ Tucker Carlson says “Harris embodies everything that is grating and unlikable about” progressive-left politicians, who are “mindless children of privilege who sneer at those below them for not obeying.”

“As California attorney general, she and her staff fought to uphold wrongful convictions and prevent potentially exculpatory evidence from coming to light (as has been well documented),” the Washington Monthly reported last year.

And while she “sells herself as a girl from Oakland who grew up to fight powerful interests,” it’s been revealed “that Harris relied on San Francisco elites and cushy appointments from her then boyfriend, former San Francisco mayor Willie Brown, to power her political rise.”

Sen. Amy Klobuchar. The Minnesota Democrat has a reputation of being cruel to her staff members. If she’s abusive to the people she’s closest to, how much worse would she treat the more than 325 million Americans she doesn’t know, if she had that chance?

The New York Times said that many of her former aides “say she was not just demanding but often dehumanizing — not merely a tough boss in a capital full of them but the steward of a work environment colored by volatility, highhandedness and distrust.”

According to Politico, “former staffers portray her as a brutal boss who mistreated them.”

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer. The coronavirus pandemic has shown the country just who the Michigan chief executive really is.

“Whitmer to Michigan: Stay Home and Shut Up,” reads a headline of a recent Debra Saunders column. Saunders suggests Whitmer should have a shirt made for herself that says “Nanny state scold.”

Michael Walsh, writing in the Epoch Times, identified Whitmer as one of several governors who have been “acting like petty tyrants as they unconstitutionally restrict personal freedom, religious observance, and the right to free association – over what is essentially a nursing-home disease that strikes the very elderly.”

Whitmer also threatened to extend her stay-at-home orders if the protests at the capitol against her heavy-handed approach continued. Hillsdale College professor Paul Rahe says the governor has “punitive instincts” and her pandemic policy “is nothing less than tyrannical.”

Others who’ve been mentioned as possibilities – Catherine Cortez Masto, one of Nevada’s U.S. senators; New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham; Wisconsin U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin; Illinois U.S. Sen. Tammy Duckworth; and Georgia governor-in-her-mind Stacey Abrams, to name a few – are no better. The Democratic Party is an assembly of Karens. That’s who it attracts. So it doesn’t matter which prospect Biden chooses. He gets a Karen.

For those who would complain that our editorial is sexist, we counter that with, one, Biden limited himself when he promised to choose a female running mate, so there are no men to criticize, and, two, there are male Karens out there, they just don’t have a name yet. We suggest Barack.

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/05/2...ll-be-a-karen/
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RealSNR 09:49 AM 05-22-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:

If Obama had been white, he'd never have even gotten close to the Dem nomination, never mind winning the presidency. His only "qualification" was his tan.
Obama could talk pretty. That's why he got the nomination. Not because whites were afraid of racism. He could read a teleprompter better than anybody in the race. And his empty, vacuous words of hope and change warmed America's vaginas.

Pete Buttigieg was cut from the same cloth. That guy was successful because he never sided one way or the other on a polarizing Democrat issue. Andrew Yang was the UBI guy, Warren and Bernie were all about progressive socialism, Biden and Klobuchar ran their campaigns as the alternative to Warren and Bernie, etc. Buttplug could talk pretty, sound smart, and never make a dent in policy discussions. That's why he was appealing to so many Democrat voters in spite of being nothing more than a mayor from Buttplug, IN.

Don't you think if racism-fearful white progressive voters were able to hand Obama the nomination, there'd still be enough of them left over to give Booker and Harris more of a legit shot at the nomination than they ended up getting? We're 12 years removed from the Dem 2008 primaries, but that was a huge swath of the Democrat voter base. You'd think even if many of them said, "We got our black president, so my conscience is clear" there would still be enough of them left over to make more of a fight for the other two black candidates in THIS race?
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Just Passin' By 10:06 AM 05-22-2020
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Obama could talk pretty. That's why he got the nomination. Not because whites were afraid of racism. He could read a teleprompter better than anybody in the race. And his empty, vacuous words of hope and change warmed America's vaginas.

Nobody gave a shit about Obama beyond press hype and "OMG! Black!". Shit, dude, we all know that he was a ****ing disaster as a president, yet polling still puts him at or near the top of the list of the greats. That's not because people are taking an honest look at the man. It's because he's black.


Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Pete Buttigieg was cut from the same cloth.
And he got crushed after a flickering moment of excitement. That's kind of the point.

Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Don't you think if racism-fearful white progressive voters were able to hand Obama the nomination, there'd still be enough of them left over to give Booker and Harris more of a legit shot at the nomination than they ended up getting? We're 12 years removed from the Dem 2008 primaries, but that was a huge swath of the Democrat voter base. You'd think even if many of them said, "We got our black president, so my conscience is clear" there would still be enough of them left over to make more of a fight for the other two black candidates in THIS race?
No. Penance was done. And the "first woman" thing failed and burned out (at least for the moment) with Hillary, because the guilt's not as strong about the poor and oppressed women as it was about the poor and oppressed negro, because she was a lazy candidate who skipped important stops, and because a huge chunk of the country hated her with the fire and fury of a thousand suns.

So, having gotten a brother into office, and having almost gotten a harridan into office, people didn't feel the need to vote for either the loathsome whore or Spartacus the clown. They'd already done their duty to the notion of firsts. So they voted for the guy they were told could beat Orange Man, after flirting with the notion of voting for the grandfather who promised to give them all the free shit.
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Setsuna 11:14 AM 05-22-2020
Who he chooses won't matter at all.
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RodeoPants2 11:47 AM 05-22-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
He has to now, he promised to do so.

And given that he's barely with it at all nownow, you have to evaluate the Dem ticket as if they were both running for president because it's more likely than ever in history that his VP will become president.
Actuarially I would guess trump is more likely to die between 2021 and 2025, than Biden.
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Merde Furieux 12:36 PM 05-22-2020
Originally Posted by RodeoShitsHisPants2:
Actuarially I would guess trump is more likely to die between 2021 and 2025, than Biden.

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