Former NFL MVP Cam Newton has reached agreement on a one-year, incentive-laden deal with the New England Patriots, league sources tell @mortreport and me.
Newton now will step into the mix to try to help replace former Patriots’ QB Tom Brady.
Originally Posted by staylor26:
And smarter, more accurate, with MUCH more experience in the system.
But let’s ignore all of that and focus on mobility when Cam can’t even stay healthy if he uses his legs too much.
Where the **** do you get this idea that Cam at this point of his career can play like Lamar for 16+ games?
Cam Newton has played in at least 14 regular season games 8 out of 9 seasons. Nobody is saying he will be as good as Lamar.
He's only 5 years removed from taking his team to a 15-1 record and a Super Bowl appearance throwing to return specialist Ted Ginn Jr and Jerricho Cotchery. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Cam Newton has played in at least 14 regular season games 8 out of 9 seasons. Nobody is saying he will be as good as Lamar.
He's only 5 years removed from taking his team to a 15-1 record and a Super Bowl appearance throwing to return specialist Ted Ginn Jr and Jerricho Cotchery.
It’s like some of you don’t watch the rest of the NFL.
Cam’s body has already started to break down. He’s not capable of using his legs that much for an entire season and he also has shoulder issues that affect his throwing ability that he’s yet to come back from. To suggest any of that is going to change all of a sudden is baseless speculation and overly optimistic. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
It’s like some of you don’t watch the rest of the NFL.
Cam’s body has already started to break down. He’s not capable of using his legs that much for an entire season and he also has shoulder issues that affect his throwing ability that he’s yet to come back from. To suggest any of that is going to change all of a sudden is baseless speculation and overly optimistic.
This is spot on. Cam's best days are behind him. [Reply]
Cam is 32 and his body started to break down a while ago.
And bullshit. The Pats do NOT have a roster as good as the Titans or Bills. That Pats roster is as bad as it’s been in a very long time.
Uhhhh... Let's not get retarded. The O-line is still solid, the defensive backfield still has Gilmore and McCourty, Hightower isn't dead yet and Winovich should take a step forward, the RB trio (Burkhead, Harris, Michel) still adds up to a decent backfield, they still have Edelman and Sanu and if Harry ever finally develops they're not horrible at WR (although it's easily the weak spot), they drafted TWO good rookie tight ends... They lost two big-name players, Van Noy and Jamie Collins, both of whom were "who?"s before resurging in New England. (And I'm not including Brady because you all can't have your cake and eat it too; you can't claim Brady was washed up and the 24th best QB and then in the same breath try to say he's an insurmountable loss.) I'm not saying their roster is Super Bowl caliber, but it's certainly not "as bad as it's been in a very long time". I repeat my assertion: without Cam they're probably around .500 and challenge for a weak division, but if Cam is healthy and starting they should probably win that East as the #3 or #4 overall seed. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I do not understand this logic at all.
Is Cam Newton better than Tom Brady?
According to all of you, yes.
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They still don’t have any weapons. Their OL is still below average.
Wrong.
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Did they not lose some key pieces on defense like Van Noy?
Uhh... LIKE Van Noy? They lost Van Noy (who was a nobody before getting into their system) and Jamie Collins (who was a failure before getting back into their system). That's about it. The Pats were the #1 D in yards allowed AND points allowed. You telling me Van Noy was THAT good?
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They are worse than they were in 2019 and now Cam Newton puts them in the AFCCG?
He's replacing the 24th-best QB last season. If he's healthy, you don't think he can do better? If the Patriots had a healthy Cam last season or an Andy Dalton, you don't think they do better? [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Judging by you giving my post a thumbs down, and quoting the guy that quoted me, I assume you’re talking about me.
But you’re a ****ing moron that clearly thinks I said something that I didn’t. Nobody is hating or talking bad about it dumbass. I simply said people are overrating it.
Get over yourself my post wasn't directed at you. I never said you said it was a bad move or anything like that. Learn how to read...
You're just a sensitive internet tough guy who wants to win every argument when he posts in a thread. Fuck off. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Judging by you giving my post a thumbs down, and quoting the guy that quoted me, I assume you’re talking about me.
But you’re a ****ing moron that clearly thinks I said something that I didn’t. Nobody is hating or talking bad about it dumbass. I simply said people are overrating it.
PAChiefsGuy is literally one of the dumbest posters on CP.
Take anything he says with that in the context. [Reply]
Originally Posted by staylor26:
It’s like some of you don’t watch the rest of the NFL.
Cam’s body has already started to break down. He’s not capable of using his legs that much for an entire season and he also has shoulder issues that affect his throwing ability that he’s yet to come back from. To suggest any of that is going to change all of a sudden is baseless speculation and overly optimistic.
Personally i think he is worth the gamble for a league minimum deal. He looked real good the first 8 weeks of 2018. Hurt his shoulder. Which you are right we never saw if the shoulder was healthy in 2019. But keep in mind that he played through the shoulder injury for 8 games in 2018. Have to believe that it was a injury that hurt his play but not major structural problems.
Then he hurt his foot. Which I have to believe that is not going to be long term and is healed. So he is 32 and probably lost a step but where last years the team could not throw at all, why not put in a QB that gives some threat of a threat to run. Keep the back side of the defense honest. [Reply]
