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Nzoner's Game Room>Raiders were most fortunate/lucky team in 2016
TigeRRUppeRRcut 05:20 PM 07-21-2017
Per ESPN statisticians: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...-bill-barnwell

2017 impact: The Raiders won 12 games but outscored their opponents by only 31 points, producing a Pythagorean expectation of 8.7 wins. That gap -- 3.3 wins -- is the fourth-largest since 1989. They're likely to decline.

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This makes a whole lot of sense if you watched the games. It seemed pretty suspect they were getting strange calls in their favor, especially in that game played in Mexico.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/11/hous...reaction-score
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BlackOp 03:19 PM 07-23-2017
Oakland has a brutal late stretch of games...@ Miami (long flight), NE, Denver, Giants, @ KC, Cowboys, @ Eagles. Good luck with that....
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JTagg7754 03:33 PM 07-23-2017
We're really lucky we didn't draft Pat Mahomes, you're right!!
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Hammock Parties 04:21 PM 07-23-2017
Defensive/Special teams scores:

Raiders: 1

Chiefs: 9

Who's the lucky team, again?
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staylor26 04:23 PM 07-23-2017
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Defensive/Special teams scores:

Raiders: 1

Chiefs: 9

Who's the lucky team, again?
Yea, our defense and special teams are significantly better.

We would've had 11 if it weren't for the bogus calls on two of Hill's returns.

What's your point?
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staylor26 04:26 PM 07-23-2017
People love to throw those D/ST's TD stats around, but fail to realize that it's also unlikely that our starting QB and RB combine for just 18 TD's again.

Our defense and ST's will continue to put us in a position to win games like they have been for the past 4 years.
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KCrockaholic 04:27 PM 07-23-2017
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Defensive/Special teams scores:

Raiders: 1

Chiefs: 9

Who's the lucky team, again?
Defense and special teams scores are not always based on luck.
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Hammock Parties 04:29 PM 07-23-2017
Originally Posted by KCrockaholic:
Defense and special teams scores are not always based on luck.
They're incredibly lucky. More lucky than anything the Raiders experienced last year.
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KCrockaholic 04:39 PM 07-23-2017
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
They're incredibly lucky. More lucky than anything the Raiders experienced last year.
Albert Wilson up the middle of the Saints punt return formation isn't lucky, it was a well timed and strategic play.

Tyreek Hill isn't lucky. He's that ****ing good.

Sorensen pick 6 was due to TALENT by Eric Berry to deflect a pass in which an instinctive and smart player like Sorensen could capitalize.

Demetrius Harris recovered a fumble in the endzone, that may have been luck, but also it was blocked by DJ Alexander, a pro bowl special teamer. Once again, talent doing work.

Eric Berry had 2 TD's, plus another pick-2 to lead vs Atl. Since when is Eric Berry lucky? He's ****ing good.

The luck of having talent is never enough. One must also have the talent to create their own luck.
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Hammock Parties 04:46 PM 07-23-2017
Originally Posted by KCrockaholic:
Albert Wilson up the middle of the Saints punt return formation isn't lucky, it was a well timed and strategic play.
That happens once every 10 years in the entire NFL.

Pure luck, which is why it didn't happen to this team in 2014 or 2015, and why it didn't keep happening to the Chiefs in 96, after the 95 team had a similar run of absurd luck.

The Chiefs were incredibly lucky. The Raiders were just a badass offense.
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JTagg7754 04:56 PM 07-23-2017
Can't really say D/ST TDs are lucky. Too many other factors to account for. Still not sure how the Raiders teams were lucky though lol. They lit people up and yes, defense was a struggle but them overcoming their deficiencies isn't "lucky" it's part of the game. They were a well-balanced team. Big deal. Still rolled out 12 wins and would've been 13 had it not been for Carr getting hurt (oh so lucky, right?).

Dumb article.
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cmdrzman 05:27 PM 07-23-2017
Originally Posted by BlackOp:
Oakland has a brutal late stretch of games...@ Miami (long flight), NE, Denver, Giants, @ KC, Cowboys, @ Eagles. Good luck with that....
Are you that much of a homo to think that a 5 hour air flight from the west coast to the east coast has much effect when a team arrives on friday night?

Only losers complain about that sh*t

Here's something up yer bung hole

Raiders traveled to the East Coast and won like 3 games straight last year...
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CoMoChief 05:41 PM 07-23-2017
Chiefs won in some very unconventional ways last year.

They had trouble scoring on offense. Def and ST almost accounted for the same # of points throughout the year. That's rarely heard of, esp on a team that goes 12-4. The Chiefs ST and defense made plays at very opportune times. Berry's 2 picks in ATL and the pick in CAR, Peters strip? the comeback vs SD.

These are things you can't necessarily count on, there are rarity, that's why they're such game changing plays and when you're the benefactor of one, you have a much better chance in winning.
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TigeRRUppeRRcut 05:41 PM 07-23-2017
Clay being Clay.

Geno wishes you had never hyped him up, you ruined his career.
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cmdrzman 05:46 PM 07-23-2017
Originally Posted by KCrockaholic:
Jim Brown wasn't even a kick returner, you ****ing retard.
My bad, meant Gayle Sayers- Point still remains little man living in apartment-
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KCrockaholic 05:55 PM 07-23-2017
Originally Posted by cmdrzman:
Are you that much of a homo to think that a 5 hour air flight from the west coast to the east coast has much effect when a team arrives on friday night?

Only losers complain about that sh*t

Here's something up yer bung hole

Raiders traveled to the East Coast and won like 3 games straight last year...
Your own fucking COACH bitched and cried about the travel schedule last year.
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