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Nzoner's Game Room>Houston Astros get hammered for cheating
siberian khatru 12:59 PM 01-13-2020

BREAKING: Per sources, MLB’s penalties for #Astros include:

*One-year suspensions for GM Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch.

*Losses of 1st and 2nd round draft picks in both 2020 and ‘21.

*A fine of $5M.

Full story and more context with @EvanDrellich: https://t.co/djvKEYFiC7

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) January 13, 2020



No players were disciplined by Major League Baseball in the Astros' investigation. While Mets manager Carlos Beltran was part of it, he was a player at the time and thus was not suspended.

Discipline for Red Sox manager Alex Cora is coming. It is going to be harsh, per sources.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 13, 2020


Jim Crane just fired Jeff Luhnow and AJ Hinch.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 13, 2020

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notorious 02:35 PM 01-16-2020
Jerk the titles.

Zero tolerance for cheating. Same thing should happen in football.
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tk13 02:46 PM 01-16-2020
That's how these things work, doesn't matter if it's sports, politics, whatever. When the house comes falling down everyone starts turning on each other. That video looks pretty bad. I don't know what you even do about that. Who knows how deep all this stuff really runs.
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zigbazah 02:53 PM 01-16-2020
Originally Posted by tk13:
Who knows how deep all this stuff really runs.
That's the big, nasty can of worms in all of this. Makes you wonder about the 14/15 Royals.
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Pitt Gorilla 02:55 PM 01-16-2020
Originally Posted by zigbazah:
That's the big, nasty can of worms in all of this. Makes you wonder about the 14/15 Royals.
It's hard to cheat that way when your strategy is swing early and often.
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Chiefspants 03:03 PM 01-16-2020
The exciting thing about the buzzer revelations is the heat from that could get too hot for Manfraud.
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tk13 03:04 PM 01-16-2020
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
It's hard to cheat that way when your strategy is swing early and often.
I mean who really knows but honestly the best argument against it is probably Bumgarner. If we had that kind of technology there's no way we let him shred us 3 times like that. Plus a lot of the big moments from those runs were amazing baserunning plays or taking advantage of the other team's fielding mistakes.
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Sassy Squatch 03:06 PM 01-16-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
The exciting thing about the buzzer revelations is the heat from that could get too hot for Manfraud.
Given how many people seem to already know about this buzzer shit, it's really hard to excuse the fact that it wasn't in the initial report and the fact he tried to put a gag order on all discussion.
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Chiefspants 03:08 PM 01-16-2020
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Given how many people seem to already know about this buzzer shit, it's really hard to excuse the fact that it wasn't in the initial report and the fact he tried to put a gag order on all discussion.
Exactly.
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Pitt Gorilla 03:09 PM 01-16-2020
Originally Posted by tk13:
I mean who really knows but honestly the best argument against it is probably Bumgarner. If we had that kind of technology there's no way we let him shred us 3 times like that. Plus a lot of the big moments from those runs were amazing baserunning plays or taking advantage of the other team's fielding mistakes.
Yeah, I think we're good. Maybe milk and cookies Moore will pay off in this case.
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Chiefspants 03:09 PM 01-16-2020
There is some evidence out there that the Royals pitchers did use things like Pine Tar and stuff that really only Trevor Bauer has loudly complained about, but all signs seem to point that both batters and pitchers prefer it when pitchers use pine tar (better grip = fewer beanballs).
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TLO 04:06 PM 01-16-2020
Not a good time to be a Houston sports fan.
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2112 04:16 PM 01-16-2020
I’m on cloud 9. The mets, Red Sox and Astro’s are all In disarray simultaneously. The perfect storm.
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Bowser 07:57 PM 01-16-2020
Haha, holy shit.

Can they implement a five year postseason ban, NCAA style? Because they should.
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GloryDayz 08:56 PM 01-16-2020
Originally Posted by Bowser:
Haha, holy shit.

Can they implement a five year postseason ban, NCAA style? Because they should.
Yes, YES they should. THAT would be "getting the hammer"...
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ShiftyEyedWaterboy 11:26 PM 01-16-2020
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
Given how many people seem to already know about this buzzer shit, it's really hard to excuse the fact that it wasn't in the initial report and the fact he tried to put a gag order on all discussion.
Makes me wonder if the league will do everything it can to keep other teams doing this under wraps. They covered up the Jays cheating awhile back. Smoke coming from the Yankees and Rangers, too.
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