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Nzoner's Game Room>Houston Astros get hammered for cheating
siberian khatru 12:59 PM 01-13-2020

BREAKING: Per sources, MLB’s penalties for #Astros include:

*One-year suspensions for GM Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch.

*Losses of 1st and 2nd round draft picks in both 2020 and ‘21.

*A fine of $5M.

Full story and more context with @EvanDrellich: https://t.co/djvKEYFiC7

— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) January 13, 2020



No players were disciplined by Major League Baseball in the Astros' investigation. While Mets manager Carlos Beltran was part of it, he was a player at the time and thus was not suspended.

Discipline for Red Sox manager Alex Cora is coming. It is going to be harsh, per sources.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 13, 2020


Jim Crane just fired Jeff Luhnow and AJ Hinch.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 13, 2020

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Sassy Squatch 01:17 PM 01-13-2020
The trash cans took more punishment than that.
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dirk digler 01:17 PM 01-13-2020
Don't follow baseball but if any league wants to get serious about cheating take away any accomplishments derived through said cheating.
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chiefzilla1501 01:18 PM 01-13-2020
Wow, rumblings that Alex Cora is going to get destroyed. He did it not once, but twice.

Imagine if the red Sox and pats get rung up at the same time. What a beautiful year to be a sports fan.
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DRM08 01:19 PM 01-13-2020
But they get to keep the ring?
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blake5676 01:20 PM 01-13-2020
The $5M is nothing but a slap on the wrist. How many owners wouldn't pay $5M for a flag and that kind of multi-season run?

But the draft picks is a major kick in the junk. And they deserve it no doubt. Losing 2 picks in the top 60ish in consecutive years is a pretty strong deterrent. They don't quite have the payroll of the big boys, so hitting on the draft and having a GM as smart as Lunhow has gone a long way to making them as good as they've been lately. Along with cheating, I suppose!
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smithandrew051 01:22 PM 01-13-2020
This just keeps getting better and better
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bdj23 01:22 PM 01-13-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
$5 million and a couple of draft picks is what it cost for a championship.
Sign me up
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Discuss Thrower 01:23 PM 01-13-2020
Not severe enough; their pennants should have gotten pulled.
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Sassy Squatch 01:26 PM 01-13-2020
[Passan] Even though Astros manager AJ Hinch disagreed with the use of video -- going so far as to damage a monitor used in the scheme multiple times to show his disapproval -- he was still suspended for a year.

[Passan] "Witnesses consistently describe this new scheme as player-driven ... with the exception of Cora."

What in the fuck? Why aren't the players being held accountable?
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Mecca 01:26 PM 01-13-2020
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
[Passan] Even though Astros manager AJ Hinch disagreed with the use of video -- going so far as to damage a monitor used in the scheme multiple times to show his disapproval -- he was still suspended for a year.

[Passan] "Witnesses consistently describe this new scheme as player-driven ... with the exception of Cora."

What in the fuck? Why aren't the players being held accountable?
Because fighting with the MLBPA is a losing battle.
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chiefzilla1501 01:28 PM 01-13-2020
Originally Posted by Superturtle:
[Passan] Even though Astros manager AJ Hinch disagreed with the use of video -- going so far as to damage a monitor used in the scheme multiple times to show his disapproval -- he was still suspended for a year.

[Passan] "Witnesses consistently describe this new scheme as player-driven ... with the exception of Cora."

What in the ****? Why aren't the players being held accountable?
Yeah, that part was a little harder to swallow. Hinch doesn't seem like a bad guy.
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DRM08 01:28 PM 01-13-2020
Pretty rough 24 hours for Houston sports fans. :-)
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zigbazah 01:35 PM 01-13-2020
Red Sox should just get out ahead of this and fire Cora. It's not like there's any chance he will be exonerated.
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KC_Connection 01:38 PM 01-13-2020
That's a shame. Bad couple of days for Houston sports. :-)
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penchief 01:39 PM 01-13-2020
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
Not severe enough; their pennants should have gotten pulled.
I agree in theory, but what do you do? You can't really play the games over or give the title to the runner up. The loss of draft picks, suspensions, and fines are appropriate but still not enough. I would be a supporter of placing an * next to their titles in all official publications for posterity. That way it would be an acknowledgement that it was determined that cheating propelled their success.

I firmly believe the two bronco titles should be addressed this way. Aside from knowing what the opposing team is going to do in advance, there is no greater competitive advantage than having more money to fill out your roster than the rest of the league.
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