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Nzoner's Game Room>*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****
Dante84 07:19 PM 04-27-2017
IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!
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duncan_idaho 06:42 AM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:

After watching the game for a third time, I think I’m going to push back against the narrative Mahomes didn’t play well in the first half. He played well.

They had four possessions. He drove them for scores on the second two and was driving on the fourth when Arik Armstead made a great individual play on the end around to Hardman and blew up the drive (a chiefs also called a Super conservative screen that went nowhere on third and 14).

He had a disastrous third quarter, no doubt. But the narrative he didn’t play well until the end doesn’t quite match reality.
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Molitoth 06:46 AM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
After watching the game for a third time, I think I’m going to push back against the narrative Mahomes didn’t play well in the first half. He played well.

They had four possessions. He drove them for scores on the second two and was driving on the fourth when Arik Armstead made a great individual play on the end around to Hardman and blew up the drive (a chiefs also called a Super conservative screen that went nowhere on third and 14).

He had a disastrous third quarter, no doubt. But the narrative he didn’t play well until the end doesn’t quite match reality.
So true. People who said he played terrible 3 Quarters are just dumb.
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DRM08 07:28 AM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
After watching the game for a third time, I think I’m going to push back against the narrative Mahomes didn’t play well in the first half. He played well.

They had four possessions. He drove them for scores on the second two and was driving on the fourth when Arik Armstead made a great individual play on the end around to Hardman and blew up the drive (a chiefs also called a Super conservative screen that went nowhere on third and 14).

He had a disastrous third quarter, no doubt. But the narrative he didn’t play well until the end doesn’t quite match reality.
He didn't light the world on fire, but he was solid in that first half. Made some big plays, including with his legs. Scored 10 points on a great defense. 3rd quarter into early 4th quarter was horrible. Last 8 minutes was very clutch.
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The Franchise 09:00 AM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
After watching the game for a third time, I think I’m going to push back against the narrative Mahomes didn’t play well in the first half. He played well.

They had four possessions. He drove them for scores on the second two and was driving on the fourth when Arik Armstead made a great individual play on the end around to Hardman and blew up the drive (a chiefs also called a Super conservative screen that went nowhere on third and 14).

He had a disastrous third quarter, no doubt. But the narrative he didn’t play well until the end doesn’t quite match reality.
That missed TD to Williams could have changed the entire pace of the game.

Obviously you can do that with any play.....but I think if we score there....that Shanahan has to do something to answer. And it’s been proven that when our offense scores....it gives confidence to the defense.
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O.city 09:11 AM 02-04-2020
All my life I've heard about this "clutch" gene bullshit and how all that matters is how you perform in crunch time.

Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say that Mahomes pretty much did that with flying colors. Now all these idiot talking heads like Mangini and company can talk about how he was so mediocre in the early parts.

So basically, they can all fuck right off and we can pretty much not give a shit about what they say anyway.
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DRM08 09:25 AM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
All my life I've heard about this "clutch" gene bullshit and how all that matters is how you perform in crunch time.

Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say that Mahomes pretty much did that with flying colors. Now all these idiot talking heads like Mangini and company can talk about how he was so mediocre in the early parts.

So basically, they can all **** right off and we can pretty much not give a shit about what they say anyway.
Yep. Double standards being used. Tom Brady got a pass from the media for 2 bad INT’s in the AFC title game a year ago. One of those INT’s was literally in the KC end zone to cost his team 6-7 points. But he was clutch at the end against a terrible KC defense.
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duncan_idaho 09:41 AM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
That missed TD to Williams could have changed the entire pace of the game.



Obviously you can do that with any play.....but I think if we score there....that Shanahan has to do something to answer. And it’s been proven that when our offense scores....it gives confidence to the defense.

You mean on the wheel route where Williams didn’t see it?

I thought he got impeded just enough to throw off the timing. But yeah, a TD there probably changes things and puts more pressure on the 49ers in the 1st half.

That and the Armstead play on the end around that killed the last drive of the half were huge swings in the game.
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chiefzilla1501 09:48 AM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
All my life I've heard about this "clutch" gene bullshit and how all that matters is how you perform in crunch time.

Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say that Mahomes pretty much did that with flying colors. Now all these idiot talking heads like Mangini and company can talk about how he was so mediocre in the early parts.

So basically, they can all **** right off and we can pretty much not give a shit about what they say anyway.
I totally believe there is. There are clutch players who lack talent (Tebow), decent enough late game players who don't take enough risk (Alex Smith), and players who move at such a frantic pace late in games that it sets the team in a panic (rivers). Even Peyton manning... As good of a closer as he was played late games with his pants on fire.

The comparison I always make is Jordan and Lebron. I have tons of respect for Lebron and he's a decent enough closer. But he doesn't have the Jordan killer instinct. Where you will mow over your competition at all costs. I believe football introduces a whole other element of leadership because you can't win games by yourself. I commented years ago how impressed I was watching Tebow on mic'd up. The game was on fire and the guy is joking around and leisurely managing the huddle. We saw lamar a few weeks back sulking on the sideline. Mahomes threw two lousy picks and you never saw him pout. Apparently he was pumping tyreek up and telling him to take the game over. We've got a guy with talent, poise, and killer instinct. That's something really special. We've seen it all along but the world learned about this Sunday.
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Halfcan 10:02 AM 02-04-2020
I guess all the idiots hating on Mahomes because he didn't destroy one of the best defenses in the NFL for 4 straight quarters never heard the phrase...

"It is not how you start the race-it is how you end it."

49ers defense were playing great and making plays. But Mahomes figured them out like he always does and overcame the leaky pass protection for the win.

Some people just can't be happy with anything- pathetic.
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chiefzilla1501 10:24 AM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
I guess all the idiots hating on Mahomes because he didn't destroy one of the best defenses in the NFL for 4 straight quarters never heard the phrase...

"It is not how you start the race-it is how you end it."

49ers defense were playing great and making plays. But Mahomes figured them out like he always does and overcame the leaky pass protection for the win.

Some people just can't be happy with anything- pathetic.
Most of them are the same trolls who praised Brady for having average games but coming through big in the clutch. Which I agree with them on. But that's hypocritical for them to suddenly change their tune with a different qb
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O.city 10:26 AM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I totally believe there is. There are clutch players who lack talent (Tebow), decent enough late game players who don't take enough risk (Alex Smith), and players who move at such a frantic pace late in games that it sets the team in a panic (rivers). Even Peyton manning... As good of a closer as he was played late games with his pants on fire.

The comparison I always make is Jordan and Lebron. I have tons of respect for Lebron and he's a decent enough closer. But he doesn't have the Jordan killer instinct. Where you will mow over your competition at all costs. I believe football introduces a whole other element of leadership because you can't win games by yourself. I commented years ago how impressed I was watching Tebow on mic'd up. The game was on fire and the guy is joking around and leisurely managing the huddle. We saw lamar a few weeks back sulking on the sideline. Mahomes threw two lousy picks and you never saw him pout. Apparently he was pumping tyreek up and telling him to take the game over. We've got a guy with talent, poise, and killer instinct. That's something really special. We've seen it all along but the world learned about this Sunday.
Tim Tebow had to win a certain way. Mahomes doesn't.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 12:33 PM 02-04-2020
Mahomes will get paid this offseason and contract negotiations will start with the number 4

From NFL Now: Now that the Super Bowl is over (the #Chiefs won, by the way), it's time to make Patrick Mahomes very rich. pic.twitter.com/fsMkgEmnxC

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) February 4, 2020

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BWillie 12:44 PM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties:
Patrick must have frustrated the 49ers to no end with how he scurried out of about 3-4 sacks tonight.

That one run he had in the 4th for about 15 yards I was sure he was sacked, and then sure he was stopped for a 1-yard gain.

HUGE.
When you have the best 20 yard shuttle and 3-cone drills of NFL QBs you can do this. People vastly underrated his athleticism and agility.
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Marcellus 12:50 PM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
When you have the best 20 yard shuttle and 3-cone drills of NFL QBs you can do this. People vastly underrated his athleticism and agility.
I was repeatedly told here that Russel Wilson is way more elusive than Mahones even though he gets sacked at about 3x the rate Pat does. :-)
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comochiefsfan 01:05 PM 02-04-2020
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
Mahomes will get paid this offseason and contract negotiations will start with the number 4

Well deserved but was holding out hope that he wouldn't fuck us that bad...

Veach will have to do some wizardry over the next five years.
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