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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Impeachment 2.0: The Roger Stone Chronicles
petegz28 10:16 AM 02-13-2020
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...ger-stone-case


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Donger 11:03 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
So the Dems who are all about "fairness" are mad because the DOJ stepped in and said a person who lied to congress should not be jailed longer than rapists and in some cases murderes.


Keep that in mind
No. They are dismayed at the possibility that Trump intervened to reduce the sentence of one of his convicted felon friends.
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BucEyedPea 11:04 AM 02-13-2020
I read this today and it fits right in this thread perfectly. I loved Professor Emeritus of Finance Rozeff's on the last impeachment and this is just as true.

But let's concentrate on the SPITE for this thread.

Democrats have only two things: socialism and spite.

The socialism comes full-strength or diluted. The spite stems from their election loss to Trump and their own moral indecency which has no apparent lower bound.

For Democrats, spite is a political tool, used at every turn in a quest for favor with voters. Among Democrats, revenge, vindictiveness and hatred run rampant to thwart Trump.

Roger Stone’s sentencing is a case in point. Elizabeth Warren demands that Barr resign over the Stone sentencing. How much hatred there is in demanding that he be sentenced to prison for 7-9 years.

The entire case from start to finish reeks.

It began with a staged FBI raid designed by evil minds.

The case went before a prejudiced judge and a biased jury. The anti-Trump prosecutors went for the jugular.

This travesty of justice and government doesn’t stop there. Both Pelosi and Schumer, the top Democrat leaders in Congress, “Call for Investigation Into Reduced Sentencing Recommendation for Roger Stone”. This pair of clowns continues to feign, to put on a straight face and pretend that Trump and Barr have done something wrong or even impeachable again.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog...ism-and-spite/

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Marcellus 11:04 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Yes. As you probably know, POTUS is given that power by the Constitution.

Again, the DOJ has been tacitly and historically independent of the Executive Branch. You really want to set the precedent of POTUS interfering in cases. In this case, ordering a reduction of a sentence of one of his BFFs? Or, are you just okay with it when the POTUS happens to be a Republican?
I don't struggle with the logical leap from 'he could pardon him completely" to "give the guy a lesser sentence". Especially a guy as old as Stone.

I mean it doesn't take a very high IQ to understand this.

Its also once again find it hilarious you don't think this type of stuff hasn't occurred in the past, the only difference is it wasnt Trump and it didnt get tweeted.
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Marcellus 11:06 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
So the Dems who are all about "fairness" are mad because the DOJ stepped in and said a person who lied to congress should not be jailed longer than rapists and in some cases murderes.


Keep that in mind
Prison reform!

Trump cant do that!
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Donger 11:07 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I don't struggle with the logical leap from 'he could pardon him completely" to "give the guy a lesser sentence". Especially a guy as old as Stone.

I mean it doesn't take a very high IQ to understand this.
Well, then you don't care that the DOJ is supposed to be independent from the White House, despite POTUS' power to pardon. And you're fine with setting this precedent for the next Democrat POTUS.
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BucEyedPea 02-13-2020, 11:07 AM
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Donger 11:08 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
Its also once again find it hilarious you don't think this type of stuff hasn't occurred in the past, the only difference is it wasnt Trump and it didnt get tweeted.
Oh? When has a previous POTUS intervened in a sentencing decision of one of his convicted pals?
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petegz28 11:08 AM 02-13-2020
The silence over the FISA report abuses from the Left is deafening
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Bob Dole 11:08 AM 02-13-2020
So the Democrats are just going to continue to alienate everyone but the far left. "Lets impeach again on an assumption that Trump interfered!" seems like such a brilliant plan.

Riddle me this: If the President can simply pardon Stone after that fact. why in the world would he interfere in the sentencing? What's the point?
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petegz28 11:09 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
No. They are dismayed at the possibility that Trump intervened to reduce the sentence of one of his convicted felon friends.
Uh, huh. Kinda like Lynch meeting with Bubba and then colluding with Comey to bail out Hillary??

I know, Obama new absolutely nothing about any of that.
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Donger 11:09 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by Bob Dole:
So the Democrats are just going to continue to alienate everyone but the far left. "Lets impeach again on an assumption that Trump interfered!" seems like such a brilliant plan.

Riddle me this: If the President can simply pardon Stone after that fact. why in the world would he interfere in the sentencing? What's the point?
I asked that same question. Probably because he's not very bright.
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Pogue 11:09 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Well, then you don't care that the DOJ is supposed to be independent from the White House, despite POTUS' power to pardon. And you're fine with setting this precedent for the next Democrat POTUS.
Thereís no law or rule that the DOJ is an independent government body. I mean the DOJ isnít a separate branch either. President is the top cop in the country.

You seem to have difficulty understanding that.
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Donger 11:10 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Uh, huh. Kinda like Lynch meeting with Bubba and then colluding with Comey to bail out Hillary??

I know, Obama new absolutely nothing about any of that.
As has been mentioned, Bubba wasn't POTUS at the time.
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Marcellus 11:10 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Oh? When has a previous POTUS intervened in a sentencing decision of one of his convicted pals?
Don't know and you don't know it hasn't happened either.
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Donger 11:11 AM 02-13-2020
Originally Posted by Pogue:
Thereís no law or rule that the DOJ is an independent government body. I mean the DOJ isnít a separate branch either. President is the top cop in the country.

You seem to have difficulty understanding that.
I'm aware of it. I'm also aware of the historical fact that the DOJ has been given quasi-independence until now, and for a really good reason.
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BucEyedPea 11:11 AM 02-13-2020
Prejudicial jury foreperson, prejudicial juror, and prejudicial judge. Not in the article is how this judge also denied Stone's defense team's exculpatory evidence or to even bring up points in his defense.

It's time for the impeachment of U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson--not Trump.
The ... foreperson of the jury that convicted former Trump adviser Roger Stone on obstruction charges last year -- and soon afterward, her history of Democratic activism and a string of her anti-Trump, left-wing social media posts came to light.

Hart even posted specifically about the Stone case before she voted to convict, as she retweeted an argument mocking those who considered Stone's dramatic arrest in a predawn raid by a federal tactical team to be excessive force. She also suggested President Trump and his supporters are racist and praised the investigation conducted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, which ultimately led to Stone's prosecution.

The Judge
I posted about this incident during the trial.
Meanwhile, it emerged that U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson had denied a defense request to strike a potential juror who was Obama-era press official with admitted anti-Trump views -- and whose husband worked at the same Justice Department division that handled the probe leading to Stone's arrest.

Another Juror
And, another Stone juror, Seth Cousins, donated to former Democratic presidential candidate Beto O'Rourke and other progressive causes, federal election records reviewed by Fox News show.

The revelations came as Trump has called the handling of Stone's prosecution "ridiculous"
I told y'all at the time that it was a SHOW TRIAL. Show me the man and I will show you the crime. This is communist-style justice.
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