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The Lounge>Per Verderame: Veach would prefer to keep Chris Jones
RunKC 09:27 AM 02-10-2020
Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).

Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.

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What the Chiefs can do with their money

Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.

Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.

Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:

•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving

Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.

The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?

If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.

If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:

Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.

Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.

Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.

In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.

Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
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pugsnotdrugs19 10:09 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
June 1st cut would save 4.5 Million on the cap is why people are suggesting it.
You’d spend just as much or more to replace him adequately (unless you’re using a top pick on LB).

I just think there’s way better cut options to create that room (which others have mentioned).
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pugsnotdrugs19 10:10 AM 02-10-2020
Veach said last week on Eisen’s show that it’s huge for them to have inside and outside pass rush presence with Jones and Clark. He’d clearly prefer that to two edge rushers (which most teams spend on).

I think he wants to keep him for sure unless an offer blows him away.
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The Franchise 10:11 AM 02-10-2020
Bring back Wiz on a one year deal, cut LDT, draft a new center and either keep Wiz at LG and have Rankins play RG or flip them.
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BleedingRed 10:11 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
LDT - $5 million
Reiter - $3.5 million
Erving - $3.25 million
Colquitt - $2 million

All better cuts than Wilson.
Agree on most of em, minus Colquitt. I was just explaining why people were saying Wilson.
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Halfcan 10:12 AM 02-10-2020
It will be nice when Berry is finally off the books. What a terrible deal that was.

LDT and Fisher are way overpaid for what we got in return. I would like the CHiefs to address the Oline in the draft and get some fresh studs on the line.
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RunKC 10:13 AM 02-10-2020
Sportrac says with rollover we’ll have $13.99 million.
Cap rise avg of $10 million would make that $23.99 million

Cutting Watkins would give you $14 million and put you at $37.99 million. That’s before cutting anyone else.

Think we’ll be fine this year. It’s 2021 and 2022 that gets dicey
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The Franchise 10:13 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Agree on most of em, minus Colquitt. I was just explaining why people were saying Wilson.
Colquitt just needs to retire. His leg is done.
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Red Dawg 10:14 AM 02-10-2020
Would be nice but two guys on the dl getting huge money is tough to pull off unless Jones helps and just wants to stay.
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BossChief 10:15 AM 02-10-2020
The franchise tag will take up all of our cap space.

Just franchising Jones means we need to make cuts just to sign draft picks.

Gotta get a long term deal done or tag trade quickly.
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BossChief 10:16 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Sportrac says with rollover weíll have $13.99 million.
Cap rise avg of $10 million would make that $23.99 million

Cutting Watkins would give you $14 million and put you at $37.99 million. Thatís before cutting anyone else.

Think weíll be fine this year. Itís 2021 and 2022 that gets dicey
Iím fairly certain that 14m is including the rollover.
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DRM08 10:18 AM 02-10-2020
Jones & Sammy are both goners unless the new CBA gives a bailout on QB salaries (separate cap).
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BossChief 10:19 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Veach said last week on Eisenís show that itís huge for them to have inside and outside pass rush presence with Jones and Clark. Heíd clearly prefer that to two edge rushers (which most teams spend on).

I think he wants to keep him for sure unless an offer blows him away.
Eisen also said Jones will take a hometown discount to stay in KC.

A semi reliable person told me a few days ago that Mahomes will do the same and that the players know it and others might follow suit to stay in KC.

Hopefully, itís true. Heís fed me a few bits of legit info in the past and 100% has connections.
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Chiefspants 10:20 AM 02-10-2020
If we can tag & trade him the way Seattle did with Frank, I think you do it 100% of the time (if we’re able to do that).
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Danguardace 10:20 AM 02-10-2020
Mahomes taking 40m but having a Seahawks type Line in front of him or a Chiefs 2018 defense on the other side or both would be unwise.

I think he is smart enough to know this imo
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wachashi 10:22 AM 02-10-2020
"He is a Seahawk. He ain't going anywhere. We aren't losing him." - Pete Carroll on Frank Clark in December 2019

No matter what Veach/Jones say publicly during this deal, it's going to all depend on what kind of offers they get from other teams. All of the other noise is just PR nonsense.
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