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The Lounge>Per Verderame: Veach would prefer to keep Chris Jones
RunKC 09:27 AM 02-10-2020
Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).

Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.

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What the Chiefs can do with their money

Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.

Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.

Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:

•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving

Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.

The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?

If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.

If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:

Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.

Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.

Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.

In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.

Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
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duncan_idaho 09:38 AM 02-10-2020
So... basically if the Chiefs keep Jones, it's do-able, but they have to hope the new CBA balloons the salary cap, too.
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BleedingRed 09:41 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
So... basically if the Chiefs keep Jones, it's do-able, but they have to hope the new CBA balloons the salary cap, too.
Its honestly a safe bet to be fair. And Mahomes might want to wait for new CBA before signing extension so... Pay heavy on Jones Contract first two years then extend Mahomes.
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Chiefspants 09:41 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
So... basically if the Chiefs keep Jones, it's do-able, but they have to hope the new CBA balloons the salary cap, too.
I think you have to have a long term solution for Patrick before Jones. Will Jones and his agent be okay/understanding about that? Well see.
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BigRedChief 09:41 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
So... basically if the Chiefs keep Jones, it's do-able, but they have to hope the new CBA balloons the salary cap, too.
or the new CBA has some kind of exception for QB's?:-)
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notorious 09:45 AM 02-10-2020
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Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.

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DRM08 09:48 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
or the new CBA has some kind of exception for QB's?:-)
Hope this happens. Would be a big win for the Chiefs and Mahomes.
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BleedingRed 09:49 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by notorious:
Pretty Standard honestly.......
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The Franchise 09:58 AM 02-10-2020
He’s neglecting other cuts that can be made instead of Wilson.

LDT
Colquitt
Erving
Reiter
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nychief 09:59 AM 02-10-2020
Man that is tough.
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RunKC 10:01 AM 02-10-2020
Okay let’s examine this for a second.

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Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.
First, Mahomes is not going to have a $40 million cap hit in 2021. It will be a backloaded contract and I would imagine year 2 would be around $25-30 million before escalating in year 3.

Second, I believe Kelce will get an extension this offseason once Kittle gets his. That would push that cap hit down the next 2 years and help.

Third, we are going to have to find at least one OT in the next 2 years to replace Fish and lower that cap hit.
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pugsnotdrugs19 10:02 AM 02-10-2020
People... STOP suggesting that we cut Damien Wilson. Makes absolutely no sense. He’s cheap.
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smithandrew051 10:04 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
People... STOP suggesting that we cut Damien Wilson. Makes absolutely no sense. Hes cheap.
Agreed. We need linebackers. Why would we cut our best?
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BleedingRed 10:05 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
People... STOP suggesting that we cut Damien Wilson. Makes absolutely no sense. Hes cheap.
June 1st cut would save 4.5 Million on the cap is why people are suggesting it.
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The Franchise 10:08 AM 02-10-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
June 1st cut would save 4.5 Million on the cap is why people are suggesting it.
LDT - $5 million
Reiter - $3.5 million
Erving - $3.25 million
Colquitt - $2 million

All better cuts than Wilson.
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