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Washington DC and The Holy Land>How Trump's three years of job gains compares to Obama's
Lex Luthor 11:53 AM 02-07-2020
Some interesting statistics on job growth that Trump supporters will claim don't matter or insist are just fake news ...

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How Trump's three years of job gains compares to Obama's

President Donald Trump says he is particularly pleased with the jobs created during his three years in office.

"We're producing jobs like you have never seen before in this country," he said during a recent speech in Michigan.

But you don't have to go back far to find three years of better job growth. Just to back to the previous three years under Barack Obama.

During Trump's first 35 months in office, the US economy has gained 6.69 million jobs. But during a comparable 35-month period at the end of Obama's tenure, employers added 7.96 million jobs, or 19%, more than what has been added since Trump took office.

The average monthly gain so far under Trump is 191,000 jobs. During the last 35 months under Obama, employers were adding an average of 227,000 jobs a month.

On Friday, the Labor Department will report January job growth, concluding the first three years of the Trump administration. Economists surveyed by Reuters forecast that employers added 160,000 in January, which would be a bit better than the 145,000 jobs added in December.

The job record under Trump is far better than the job record during Obama's first 35 months in office, when the economy lost 1.2 million jobs. But Obama took office in the midst of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. In the final job reading before Obama took office, the economy lost 783,000 jobs in that month alone. And it continued to lose jobs throughout the rest of 2009 as Obama's economic policies went into effect.

By comparison, Trump took office with the labor market in relatively good shape, with unemployment at 4.7%, and a string of 76 straight months of job gains. The labor market has clearly continued to improve. Unemployment of 3.5% is at a 50-year low now. But it is a continuation of an improving job market, not the turnaround that occurred in the early years of the Obama administration.

And Trump's job record is not unique. A gain of more than 6.7 million jobs during a 35-month period has been common during the 80 years that the Labor Department has counted jobs. There are hundreds of overlapping 35-month periods of better growth on record.

At this point in his first and only term, Jimmy Carter had enjoyed a gain of about 10 million jobs. Employers added 8.5 million jobs during the first 35 months of Bill Clinton's term and 7.6 million jobs during the first 35 months of Lyndon Johnson's tenure, even though the labor force at that time was less than half the size of what it is today.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/06/econo...son/index.html

Trump keeps telling the Big Lie, and his supporters continue to swallow it, hook, line, and sinker.

To summarize:
  1. Job growth in the last 35 months under Obama far surpassed job growth in the first 35 months under Trump.
  2. When Obama took office, he inherited the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.
  3. When Trump took office, we already had 76 consecutive months of job growth. Job growth declined by an average of 36,000 jobs per month after Trump took office.
  4. During Trump's time in office, the deficit exploded to over a trillion dollars a year, despite the massive GOP tax cuts that were supposed to pay for themselves.

Despite items 1-4 above, Trump continues to tell the Big Lie and claim that the economy is performing far better under him than it has ever performed.

And the members of the Cult of Trump continue to believe it.


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Easy 6 02:15 PM 02-07-2020
“Those jobs aren’t coming back!”

That’s all you need to know about sellout Barry
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petegz28 02:27 PM 02-07-2020
Wow, the Dems poured on the desperation cologne pretty heavy this week
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Just Passin' By 02:32 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Wow, the Dems poured on the desperation cologne pretty heavy this week
We rarely see this type of beating, with blow after blow after blow happening in such a short stretch of time. They're basically flailing with their arms, while trying to retreat and stay on their feet until the end of the round.
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Loneiguana 02:33 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by alpha_omega:
Loneiguana name calls....film at 11.
Idiot points out name calling in response to post that called Obamma Obummer.

Another thin skinned conservative. News at 11.
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Loneiguana 02:34 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Wow, the Dems poured on the desperation cologne pretty heavy this week
Did Trump deliver on that 3 percent growth like he promised?
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fan4ever 02:34 PM 02-07-2020
Are any of Obama's "jobs" statistics the result of the 800 billion stimulus? The "shovel ready jobs" that he eventually joked about not being so shovel ready?
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alpha_omega 02:39 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by Loneiguana:
Idiot points out name calling in response to post that called Obamma Obummer.

Another thin skinned conservative. News at 11.
Can't do it any other way, huh?
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lawrenceRaider 02:39 PM 02-07-2020
Amazing, it's harder to fill/add more jobs when the unemployment rate is at near record lows.

SHOCKING!

Do any of you saggy vags actually hire people? It is very tough to hire a good worker off the street. Most decent ones are leaving another job.
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HemiEd 02:50 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Amazing, it's harder to fill/add more jobs when the unemployment rate is at near record lows.

SHOCKING!

Do any of you saggy vags actually hire people? It is very tough to hire a good worker off the street. Most decent ones are leaving another job.
I have said it on here numerous times. I am glad I am retired and not trying to hire people right now as I truly believe that close to 5% of our population is unemployable.

Either they don't have the work eithic or skills.
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HemiEd 02:52 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
We rarely see this type of beating, with blow after blow after blow happening in such a short stretch of time. They're basically flailing with their arms, while trying to retreat and stay on their feet until the end of the round.
This is a fascinating (and disturbing) read. One of the best “nutshell” descriptions of the United States current political situation that I've seen.

Dr. Jack Devere Minzey, born 6 October 1928, died 8 April 2018, was the Department Head of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. (Editor's note) This was the last of his works:

Civil War: How do civil wars happen? By Dr. Jack Devere Minzey

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

The Mueller investigation was about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections. That's a civil war.

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So, what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. He can use the IRS as his own police force and imprison citizens who speak against him. He can provide guns and money (Fast and Furious) (Iran nuclear deal) to other countries to support his own agenda and watch while one of America's Ambassador's is dragged through the streets and murdered doing nothing to aid our citizens. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator. But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. That's how the game is played. That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries The Constitution has something to say about that. Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.

Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them; they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

That's not a free country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did.

Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist socialist Democrat professional government.

Well now Pilgrims and Patriots, having read the above, I suggest two things: forward this very timely, very important analysis to those whom you believe think like you do (and those that don't) and make sure you vote on every Election day!
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Mr. Kotter 02:55 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by Halfcan:
Many people lost their homes, jobs and 40l K's under Obummer. Yet these idiots keep singing his praises. Insanity.
Your selective memory is really bad. Obama made his share of mistakes....but he inherited the worst recession in modern American history. Understandably, that is not something you turn around on a dime; it took some time. However, the trend for his administrations was a steady recovery--admittedly, slower than anyone would have liked. By the end of his terms though, things WERE gaining steam; Trump has absolutely benefited from it, just as Obama' recovery was stymied by the shit show he inherited.

Too many morons blame Presidents for far too much, and give Presidents credit for far too much. The business cycle, absent some extraordinary event (war, economic bubbles, terrorism, or major policy failure--repeal of Glass Steagall, lack of common sense regulatory oversight...) if not predictable, is usually manageable. The real insanity is not giving credit where credit is due, for either side. Obama wasn't nearly as bad as the right's venom and vitriol would indicate; and, no, Trump (despite very real flaws) isn't as bad as the whacko LWNJs want to say.

Honestly, if Trump would just back off....knock off the really stupid shit, shut his mouth some and limit his Twitter rants to things that are not toxic and incredibly divisive hyperbole and demagoguery, and make some REAL effort at moderation, he'd cruise to re-election. He may yet do so, because the Dems seem to be incompetent in their efforts to find an alternative. Yet Trump's supporters continue to enable him, like a codependent abused wife of an abusive alcoholic foulmouthed bullying husband. Same as it ever was...

:-)
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Loneiguana 03:01 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter:
However, the trend for his administrations was a steady recovery--admittedly, slower than anyone would have liked.
Under 3 percent growth isn't an issue anymore, haven't you heard?

Trump hasn't delivered on the 3 percent he has promised, so nobody cares anymore.

I'll let you know when a democrat is office again, then you can care about under 3 percent growth and deficits again.
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Randallflagg 03:05 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by Just Passin' By:
We rarely see this type of beating, with blow after blow after blow happening in such a short stretch of time. They're basically flailing with their arms, while trying to retreat and stay on their feet until the end of the round.

Hell, I saw on the 12:00 news that the dems are contemplating yet another series of investigations.

As I have stated many, many times here - they will never stop and they have made that abundantly clear.

But as far as I'm concerned, with each new crap "investigation" - more and more Americans are going to vote for Trump. They see through their crap and are sick to death of it.
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Just Passin' By 03:25 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
Hell, I saw on the 12:00 news that the dems are contemplating yet another series of investigations.

As I have stated many, many times here - they will never stop and they have made that abundantly clear.

But as far as I'm concerned, with each new crap "investigation" - more and more Americans are going to vote for Trump. They see through their crap and are sick to death of it.
Republicans have done the heavy investigation angle in the past. What they haven't done is they haven't weaponized impeachment. We'll see how it plays out, but the Democrats doing that is off putting, even to a sizeable percentage of the Dem voters that I know.
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Mr. Kotter 03:28 PM 02-07-2020
Originally Posted by Loneiguana:
Under 3 percent growth isn't an issue anymore, haven't you heard?

Trump hasn't delivered on the 3 percent he has promised, so nobody cares anymore.

I'll let you know when a democrat is office again, then you can care about under 3 percent growth and deficits again.
Funny how if their guy falls short of their goals, it's no big deal; but you beat the living hell out of the OTHER guy for the same statistics. Same with the deficit; because it's our guy, move along nothing to see here; if it's the OTHER guy, well ....the fuggin' world is gonna END!!! That's how fucked up things have gotten...
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