Yeah! They really seem to be doing good business these days! Why don't we ever hear about local mom and pop pharmaceutical companies and THEIR vaccines??!!!!!
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What state? Part of department of education guidelines is following mandates by department of health.

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I understand these companies make tons of cash but they do it while trying to develop medications designed to help people and the better they help people the more they make which helps them develop more/better drugs yet they seem to get way more hate than cigarette companies.

Some companies will make big money off their COVID-19 vaccines — but not as much as they could

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cov...izer-1.5812619
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There are places with booths. No need to fear fainting in public. I may need it, the first shot made me sick as a dog.
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You make it sound like pharmaceutical companies operate on altruism, as if they're different from every other corporation on earth.

The dozens and dozens of successful lawsuits over the years say otherwise.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't get the vaccine but let's not fabricate reality in order to convince people. Pharmaceutical companies are for-profit entities and they don't do ANYTHING out of altruism.
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I don't believe we're going to wear masks forever simply because I don't think people will actually do it.

I do think if the government had their way, we'd wear them for much, much longer than needed.

As for what has made me so cynical about the government, do you really need to ask?
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"what society has to offer" is going to be the new lame buzzphrase.

like "flatten the curve"
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I asked the same elsewhere, but for those who have had the vaccines, did your paperwork say anything about the amount of time after the second shot, or after the J&J jab, which should pass before you are "fully vaccinated"? Mine did not, and the tech who stuck me didn't either.

For those who don't know, the times are:

Pfizer = 14 days after boost shot.
Moderna = 14 days after boost shot.
J&J = 15 to 29 days.
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I think he's saying ego is more important than getting back to normal. :-)

Kind of like a kid I know who repeatedly does whatever the hell they want and is constantly making life worse and worse.... and the choices are to "be a sheep" as immature adults would say and get back to some sort of normalcy as quickly as possible, or I guess "have no fear" and deal with the the shitty reality even longer.

Doing things you don't agree with so you can have the things you want or want to avoid in the long run kind of sucks sometimes, but that's the free choice you're given in society... hell, if I let my ego get in the way enough, I'd drive a lot faster and never do taxes again, consequences be damned.
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So if we set aside the clotting thing and just look at the practical side, the J&J vaccine takes longer to set in and has a lower effectiveness rate, right?

As someone who hasn't been vaccinated, it would appear that, given a choice, the mRNA vaccines would be the better bet right now?
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All I have to do is look and my paystub every two weeks since forever to see how the government isn’t to be trusted. Gotta love filing single and zero all year long even though I’m married, and the IRS still wants more at the end of the year.
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"Be a sheep," "sleepery slope." In other words I got nothing.
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The J&J efficacy is about 70% last I saw, compared to 90 to 95% for the Pfizer and Moderna. But the latter are two jabs (prime and boost) 21 and 28 days apart respectively. So, add that up, and you are "fully" vaccinated with J&J sooner, but it is less effective.

Yes, I would say that the mRNA vaccines are better based on that data. I was glad when I figured out that I was getting Pfizer. It was my preferred choice.
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Yes, but the advantage of the JNJ vaccine is obviously that it's only one shot. And for much of the world, it's much easier logistically to store, etc.
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Thanks.
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