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TLO 06:51 PM 08-15-2020
2015 Dodge Charger RT - 75,000 miles.

I'm noticing a clicking/ticking sound coming from the front end, (sounds like maybe from the right side) under acceleration at low speed. The noise is also present when coming to a stop. It seems to be worse when turning under acceleration. At higher speeds the noise goes away. (Will generally stop once I hit 15mph or so)

The noise is not present when the car is cold. Takes about 15 minutes of driving before it becomes noticeable at all.

Car seems to be running well, no issues shifting.

Will try to provide more details as needed.
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Titty Meat 02:56 PM 07-05-2022
Is this the leaf mount rusting through the truck bed?
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ModSocks 02:59 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Is this the leaf mount rusting through the truck bed?
Lol wtf.

Your leaf spring shackle busted through the truck bed?

JFC dude it's time to put that truck out of its misery.
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Titty Meat 03:08 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Lol wtf.

Your leaf spring shackle busted through the truck bed?

JFC dude it's time to put that truck out of its misery.
:-)
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ModSocks 03:31 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
:-)
Seriously, how the fuck does that even happen?

You could probably find a better truck at the wrecking yard at this point.
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Titty Meat 03:37 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
Seriously, how the **** does that even happen?

You could probably find a better truck at the wrecking yard at this point.
Can I still drive it for a bit?
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Baby Lee 03:42 PM 07-05-2022
Yeah, that's more than a rusty spring. . . Looks to be a detached shackle.

This means one of the four main points holding your rear-end to the chassis is completely, or nearly completely free.

You are perilously close to your entire rear end trekking its own course through the universe, independent of your truck.

The leaf springs support and cushion the rear axle and attach at ends to the frame. There's one set on each side of the car, that cup-looking thing peeking out of your bed is , . . . err was, . . . the attachment point of one leaf spring to the frame.


Upper right. . .




The bushing [left] and rear-eye [right] are the hard points where the leaf-springs attach to the frame, . . . one on each side of the vehicle.

It's structural. . .

The bad news is, you need someone with pro tools who knows what they are doing.

The good news is, even though it's a vital part, it's not a sophisticated part. If you have a friend who is giving of their expertise and labor, it's not like rebuilding an engine or troubleshooting shot wiring. or re-machining a warped block or something that takes real licensed expertise and an entire mechanic's shop worth of tools and instruments.

Weld in or bolt on some decent replacement parts and you can survive. But don't go using this thinking it will be fine.
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Titty Meat 03:47 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Yeah, that's more than a rusty spring. . . Looks to be a detached shackle.

This means one of the four main points holding your rear-end to the chassis is completely, or nearly completely free.

You are perilously close to your entire rear end trekking its own course through the universe, independent of your truck.

The leaf springs support and cushion the rear axle and attach at ends to the frame. There's one set on each side of the car, that cup-looking thing peeking out of your bed is , . . . err was, . . . the attachment point of one leaf spring to the frame.


Upper right. . .




The bushing [left] and rear-eye [right] are the hard points where the leaf-springs attach to the frame, . . . one on each side of the vehicle.

It's structural. . .
Sounds expensive. Surprisingly I've had no issues with how it's drove.
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Baby Lee 03:58 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Sounds expensive. Surprisingly I've had no issues with how it's drove.
If you have absolutely no expertise and no mechanic connections, it is probably expensive to the point of totalling the vehicle.

But as I outlined about, it's not so much a sophisticated problem, as it's a know-how, tools and muscle problem.

If you have a friend with lifts and air tools and welding rigs and the like, you can likely cabbage a replacement from a junkyard that just needs some grunt and sweat to fix.

But it's not something you can ignore, and it's not something you can just 'patch' with some duct tape, and if you go to a body shop and tell them just to get it done, it's probably gonna cost more than it's worth.

If you have a make and model, I could google around for some visuals to help you see the situation more concretely.
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ModSocks 04:01 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Sounds expensive. Surprisingly I've had no issues with how it's drove.
It's fucked. You need to stop driving it.

The shackle is mounted to the frame rail. So you either have a bracket that rusted and broke, or your frame rail is fucked, or both.

Take some pics from under the truck.
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Baby Lee 04:05 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
Sounds expensive. Surprisingly I've had no issues with how it's drove.
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
If you have a make and model, I could google around for some visuals to help you see the situation more concretely.
To give a start, the grey beam across the top signifies the frame right under your truck bed sheet metal, and it looks like what popped up is the mounting point breaking free of the frame and the weight of the truck pushing down on it to burst the mounting point and end bushing up through the sheet metal of the bed.

The breaking free of the frame is the lynchpin of the concern. Means 1/4 of your rear-end hard points are free-swinging, which stresses the other three and suggests imminent failure.

Think like a tent in a windstorm and one corner is flapping free untethered to the ground.
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Titty Meat 04:05 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
It's ****ed. You need to stop driving it.

The shackle is mounted to the frame rail. So you either have a bracket that rusted and broke, or your frame rail is ****ed, or both.

Take some pics from under the truck.
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Titty Meat 07-05-2022, 04:06 PM
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Titty Meat 04:08 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Baby Lee:
To give a start, the grey beam across the top signifies the frame right under your truck bed sheet metal, and it looks like what popped up is the mounting point breaking free of the frame and the weight of the truck pushing down on it to burst the mounting point and end bushing up through the sheet metal of the bed.

The breaking free of the frame is the lynchpin of the concern. Means 1/4 of your rear-end hard points are free-swinging, which stresses the other three and suggests imminent failure.

Think like a tent in a windstorm and one corner is flapping free untethered to the ground.
97 Ford ranger
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Fish 04:13 PM 07-05-2022
JFC do you park it in a pond?
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Titty Meat 04:14 PM 07-05-2022
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Baby Lee 04:15 PM 07-05-2022
Originally Posted by Titty Meat:
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Looks like your bolts may have sheared, which might turn out to be a blessing, compared to what else could be.

You need to assess how sound that structural metal is right underneath the end of the spring.

If there are any defects to that, your frame is shot which is tough to justify any kind of rehab. But if it's solid and rust-free and true, you might be able to jack up the back and replace the saddle.

Something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-722-10...74495831&psc=1

https://www.autozone.com/suspension-...E&gclsrc=aw.ds


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