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Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum>Welp. Looks like we need a RB.
KC Hawks 08:08 PM 11-30-2018
So who looks good in this upcoming draft?
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bevischief 12:52 AM 12-05-2018
This team doesn't need a high round running back anymore.
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Chargem 01:53 AM 12-05-2018
Improving the line in the draft would probably do more for the run game than taking a 1st round RB.
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tmax63 09:42 AM 12-05-2018
If the Chiefs don't spend their 1st 3 picks on defense then they're crazier than I am. As many have said before, get them an average defense and no one can keep up with the offense as it stands right now without KH. If they don't get some better talent at the CB/S spots they will continue to give up 35 points a game. I don't expect Berry to be the savior everyone is hoping for. He hasn't played for almost 2 seasons. I think he'll look like DJ his last year or so, like he's running in sand. I really liked EB and it's sad that his career has taken this curve but to expect him to come back like his old self is totally unrealistic.
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DJ's left nut 10:16 AM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Here’s something I saw floated out there today that’s interesting. Tevin Coleman. Coached by Deland McCollough in college at Indiana, about to be a FA.

Obviously wouldn’t want to spend much but if he can be had for cheap, that’d be a great add IMO. Veach always talks about attacking pockets in the draft/FA. If the RB draft class isn’t strong, it might be a good idea. Again, needs to be cheap.
If I'm taking on a veteran free agent it's Mark Ingram.

Coming out of college he was too heavy and slow; just didn't look like he was in very good shape. In the last couple of years he's completely remade his body and he looks damn quick now. He's not quite Kamara in that regard but it's closer than ever. He's still willing to put his nose in there and take on contact as well.

The question is how much his role will suppress his value. Is there a chance that you can get him for something like 2/$12? It doesn't seem likely given Jerick McKinnon's deal and I don't think McKinnon is as good as Ingram. And even if you can get him for 2/$12, should you? That's money that's just spent now and can't go to extensions for guys in-house. If he costs at/above what McKinnon costs, I'm out. But if his market doesn't come together, I'd make sure his agent knew I was interested at the right figure...probably.

I think Coleman's in that squishy middle in that he's going to cost real money but still not be a guy I'd be confident in as an every down back. I think I'd just take one of the slew of complementary backs available in the draft and be happy paying him the league minimum before I'd pay Coleman middle-class RB money.

I just like what I've seen from Ingram; he's really developed nicely and does a lot of things that would work extremely well here.
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O.city 10:23 AM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
If I'm taking on a veteran free agent it's Mark Ingram.

Coming out of college he was too heavy and slow; just didn't look like he was in very good shape. In the last couple of years he's completely remade his body and he looks damn quick now. He's not quite Kamara in that regard but it's closer than ever. He's still willing to put his nose in there and take on contact as well.

The question is how much his role will suppress his value. Is there a chance that you can get him for something like 2/$12? It doesn't seem likely given Jerick McKinnon's deal and I don't think McKinnon is as good as Ingram. And even if you can get him for 2/$12, should you? That's money that's just spent now and can't go to extensions for guys in-house. If he costs at/above what McKinnon costs, I'm out. But if his market doesn't come together, I'd make sure his agent knew I was interested at the right figure...probably.

I think Coleman's in that squishy middle in that he's going to cost real money but still not be a guy I'd be confident in as an every down back. I think I'd just take one of the slew of complementary backs available in the draft and be happy paying him the league minimum before I'd pay Coleman middle-class RB money.

I just like what I've seen from Ingram; he's really developed nicely and does a lot of things that would work extremely well here.
How nice would it be to have Kamara sitting there in KC now?

Yeah, obviously with how the Hunt thing played out but even at the time, I think you were there as well as myself on preferring Kamara.

Hunt was a nice fit and we overlooked him a lot during the draft and stuff, but I still don't know that he's just irreplaceable.
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DJ's left nut 11:12 AM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
How nice would it be to have Kamara sitting there in KC now?

Yeah, obviously with how the Hunt thing played out but even at the time, I think you were there as well as myself on preferring Kamara.

Hunt was a nice fit and we overlooked him a lot during the draft and stuff, but I still don't know that he's just irreplaceable.
Kamara was my guy, yes. I was at a Mexican joint having dinner during the draft when our pick came up and I was just dumbfounded that we passed on him in the 2nd. It was that "oh my God, DJ's gonna fall to us" kind of anticipation as our pick came up.

And then we took fucking K-Pass. I was...irritable.
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'Hamas' Jenkins 02:12 PM 12-05-2018
I'm going to bet you were at Las Margaritas.
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DJ's left nut 02:40 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins:
I'm going to bet you were at Las Margaritas.
La Terraza. It was the night I discovered their little mini quesadillas on a corn tortilla; part of one of their 'jumbo combo' style of meals. Never had quesadillas on a corn tortilla but these are deep fried (I think) and damn tasty.

Not a member of the cult of Las Margs. I know some folks that won't go anywhere but there - those people are wrong.

Gimme Agave or La Terraza every time. When we lived on the north side of town the owner of Agave on Rangeline knew us by name; ate there at least once a week.
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O.city 02:50 PM 12-05-2018
G&D steaks right by Best buy still there?

We used to come up for the state basketball tourney every year and Dad and his buddies had to eat there like 3 times in 3 days.
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DJ's left nut 02:58 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
G&D steaks right by Best buy still there?

We used to come up for the state basketball tourney every year and Dad and his buddies had to eat there like 3 times in 3 days.
Ate there on Monday. Still a shockingly solid steak for what looks like a strip mall burger joint. It's not exactly a place to go for a cheap, good steak anymore - the big ribeye is $18 with a potato and a shitty salad - but it's a solid place to take twin infants if you want a good steak and your wife wants a Gyro (or if you just want a Gyro).

Good place; that family has owned it since it opened and I like kicking them some business whenever I think about it.
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fairladyZ 02:58 PM 12-05-2018
I'm throwing my hat in there on Alexander Mattison from bsu. He runs like Kareem, looks like Kareem, will hop people like Kareem and may be a little faster. And he should be available in the 3rd round like Kareem, we might have to trade out of 1 of our high 2nds back into the 3rd and pick up a late round pick for him but I think he is going to be a beast in the NFL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsiKiFkdWo
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O.city 03:09 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
Ate there on Monday. Still a shockingly solid steak for what looks like a strip mall burger joint. It's not exactly a place to go for a cheap, good steak anymore - the big ribeye is $18 with a potato and a shitty salad - but it's a solid place to take twin infants if you want a good steak and your wife wants a Gyro (or if you just want a Gyro).

Good place; that family has owned it since it opened and I like kicking them some business whenever I think about it.
Yeah, I think we ate there 3 times one day when I was in high school. It was always just a damn solid place. Good to know it's still there. That's still not a bad price for a steak though. Hell, my 2 boys eat like small men so they order off the main menu most of the time.

I can't remember the last steak I ate where it didn't cost me over 100 bucks.
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UChieffyBugger 06:08 PM 12-05-2018
So I've been doing my research over the last couple of days and this seems to be the notion formed by some "draft experts"

1. Rodney Anderson would be the clear number one if he wasn't so injury prone

2. Bryce Love's stock has fallen due to a subpar season

3. Damien Harris is not a three-down back

4. Benny Snell's stats are amazing but much may depend on his 40 time

5. Darrell Henderson's stock is rising

6. David Montgomery could be the first one taken off the board

It's really gonna be interesting to see how Veach and co play this out. On one hand some folks like Kent Swanson are naively saying "the running back position doesn't matter and we can get someone on the third day". Whereas I think If we want a quality back we're gonna have to target one sooner than that.

Another player I think is well worth looking at is Jordan Scarlett. He looks a little like Charles to me. He's had off-field problems in the past but his skills and traits are very impressive imo.
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UChieffyBugger 06:09 PM 12-05-2018
What does everyone think of the local boy Alex Barnes from K state? Any good?
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kccrow 08:22 PM 12-05-2018
Originally Posted by fairladyZ:
I'm throwing my hat in there on Alexander Mattison from bsu. He runs like Kareem, looks like Kareem, will hop people like Kareem and may be a little faster. And he should be available in the 3rd round like Kareem, we might have to trade out of 1 of our high 2nds back into the 3rd and pick up a late round pick for him but I think he is going to be a beast in the NFL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjsiKiFkdWo
Excellent. Forgot all about him. Definitely in the top 5 guys at the position if he declares.
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