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The Lounge>*** Official 2018-2019 Royals Offseason Repository ***
Coach 09:05 PM 10-29-2018
As the season comes to a close after an awful season, there is a possibility of some hope since the team played better in late August to the end of the season.

Here are all the important dates you need to know for the 2018-19 MLB offseason. Some of them do involve the Royals, such as:

Oct. 29: As of 9 a.m. ET on Monday, all eligible players are free agents (Escobar - good riddance).

Oct. 31: Most contract option decisions are due on this date (Hammel should be declined, resulting $2 million buyout and Peralta should be accepted, resulting $3 million increase to the payroll, and could be future flip for additional minor leaguers if he performs well).

Spoiler!

Nov. 2: Deadline for teams to tender their eligible FA the qualifying offer.

Spoiler!

Nov. 3: Free agency begins.

Nov. 4: Gold Glove winners announced (Gordon & Perez).

Spoiler!

Nov. 6-8: General manager meetings in Carlsbad, California.

Nov. 12: Deadline for free agents to accept or reject the qualifying offer.

Nov. 14-15: Owners meetings in Atlanta (possible future CBA discussions).

Nov. 20: Deadline for teams to add eligible minor leaguers to the 40-man roster to protect them from the Rule 5 Draft.

Spoiler!


Nov. 26-29: MLB Players Association executive board meeting in Dallas (possible future CBA discussions).

Nov. 30: Non-tender deadline.

Dec. 9-13: Winter Meetings in Las Vegas. This is typically when all offseason hell breaks loose.

Dec. 13: Rule 5 Draft (could see the Royals taking a stab here).

Jan. 11: Deadline for teams and arbitration-eligible players to submit 2019 salary figures (I believe KC has some arb-eligible players).

Feb. 1-20: Arbitration hearings. You win some, you lose some.

Mid-Feb. : SPRING TRAINING!

As usual, let's have a good off-season discussion on ways that the Royals can/should/would do to improve. I will try to update the OP as the off-season goes along. And Duncan, you're more than welcome to provide us some information that I can add onto the OP. Just let me know.

To see the 2018 Royals thread, go here.
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duncan_idaho 02:47 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
The Indians traded Yan Gomes to Washington. I'm curious what other trades they'll end up making. I completely agree with their strategy of trading off players and getting the rebuild started before everyone walks and the cupboard is bare. It's how you expedite the rebuild and avoid 5-7 years of building like we're forced to go through.

They may move one of their front of rotation guys (Kluber, Carrasco, Bauer) but I don’t expect much else.

Gomes was expensive and they didn’t get much back in return at all. I don’t believe either of the prospects received made the Indians top 10 guys.

They’re also not doing a full tear down. They’re trying to selectively sell a few pieces here and there to shed payroll.

That may be to clear some payroll for a Lindor extension or extend their window... but they’re also not making moves that are going to allow them to close this window with a title unless something fluky happens.

So they’ll walk about with 5-6 division titles in a decade, with one WS appearance and no wins.

Wouldn’t trade two WS and a title for that, no matter what the rest of the decade shows.
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duncan_idaho 02:57 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
What difference does that make? When freaking Matheny is our manager next year, you still going to be defending Moore with the same BS? Why is Dayton Moore beyond reproach around here? How long do we have to go before the WS win finally loses its luster, and Moore is finally judged on his performance since then (and performance in the draft even before the WS)?

He’s not beyond reproach. If/when he predictably elevates Matheny to replace Yost as manager, I don’t think any around here will avoid criticizing him.

In fact, as I’ve stated here in the past few weeks, it will run through the rest of the leash I’m allowing.

I’m willing to be patient and give some leeway and apply some context and understanding... but there is none that explains elevating Matheny.
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Prison Bitch 03:34 PM 12-03-2018
He will throw games by playing bible study guys!


(Fan stupidity. Hitting an all time low)
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Chiefspants 03:43 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
He will throw games by playing bible study guys!


(Fan stupidity. Hitting an all time low)
Dude you got your ass kicked on this by Cards fans and then hid from this thread for a while. Probably best to let this one go.
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Prison Bitch 04:39 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Dude you got your ass kicked on this by Cards fans and then hid from this thread for a while. Probably best to let this one go.
Hey fvckface - show me exactly where I got "my ass kicked by Cards fans".


I just went thru this whole thread and didn't see jack shit. Put up or shut the f---up.
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duncan_idaho 07:11 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
He will throw games by playing bible study guys!


(Fan stupidity. Hitting an all time low)

It doesn’t matter what his reasons were for overvaluing crappy veterans and giving them tremendous leeway and playing time at the expense of talented young players. He did it consistently.

Whatever the reason for that was, it also doesn’t change the fact Matheny was 1) the least effective manager at utilizing his bullpen; 2) abusive of his best bullpen arms to the point of overworking and ruining multiple guys

It doesn’t roll back that he was not liked by his players and had trouble connecting with them. That he had players he went months without communicating with except by text, that he was terrible with young players to the point of letting JAG vets like Bud Norris abuse young players like Hicks.
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Chiefspants 07:27 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Hey ****face - show me exactly where I got "my ass kicked by Cards fans".


I just went thru this whole thread and didn't see jack shit. Put up or shut the f---up.
Dude, you can't say my "stupidity is at an all time low" by "voicing rumors that have never been proven", while multiple Cardinal fans have come in and talked about how the Bible Studies were confirmed by multiple beat writers.

I've let this kind of thing slide before. You repeatedly called me a dumb**** for predicting that James Shields would slip to "Guthrie like production" before 2016 and I never really took you to task about it.

Own up like you demanded Duncan do about Kennedy or let it go, man.
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Al Bundy 07:30 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Hey fuckface - show me exactly where I got "my ass kicked by Cards fans".


I just went thru this whole thread and didn't see jack shit. Put up or shut the f---up.
Go read the last three pages... it is very clear he played favorites. He held bible studies and those were his guys. Metheny is a bad manager and should be no where near a rebuilding team.
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dlphg9 08:36 PM 12-03-2018
Don't know why you guys bother with him. He's not going to admit he's wrong. He will just keep doubling down.
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Prison Bitch 09:08 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Al Bundy:
Go read the last three pages... it is very clear he played favorites. He held bible studies and those were his guys. Metheny is a bad manager and should be no where near a rebuilding team.
Proof. Show me proof. I don't care what the bfibs said. Show me something tangible. Or admit it just doesn't exist.
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Prison Bitch 09:13 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Chiefspants:
Dude, you can't say my "stupidity is at an all time low" by "voicing rumors that have never been proven", while multiple Cardinal fans have come in and talked about how the Bible Studies were confirmed by multiple beat writers.
Who? Who are these beat writers? I'm asking you (or whoever makes the claim) to show me. PD beat writer Derrick Goold specifically states the exact opposite:
If there's peer pressure, it's not readily apparent. If there's favoritism, it's not readily apparent, or it's a perception that doesn't last. If there's an insistence on between "goody-two shoes" ... well, that's just there's not. There's just not.

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/is-a...497a72ed3.html
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jd1020 09:16 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
Proof. Show me proof. I don't care what the bfibs said. Show me something tangible. Or admit it just doesn't exist.
Googled "mike matheny bible study" and clicked on the first link. It's an interview between Darrin Patrick, former Cardinals Chaplain, and Mike Matheny...

Originally Posted by :
DP | I'll never forget, it was the National League Championship Series in 2013. It was before the game, we're doing our prayer time, like we did before every home playoff game, and I walked in and saw you playing and worshiping.

MM | It might have been the last game against Los Angeles. And you came in and were blown away. You actually took a picture and said, “I want to show my wife what you do to prepare for a game!” I do a lot of praise and worship. And it helps the time go by on the road, but I don't do it a lot at home. But that was special how that group got together before every game. And it started out as a few guys, and ended up with 20-plus guys in this room. We just stopped and gave God a little bit of our time. Let's slow down and realize how cool it is that we are where we are right now and not praying necessarily, “Let's win.” We just prayed that we would go out and do things the way we're supposed to do it.
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/a...ood-and-faith/
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Prison Bitch 09:20 PM 12-03-2018
That isn't in dispute^^^. The charge is that he allowed his faith to influence his roster decisions. And it's bullshit until someone shows proof.
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tk13 09:26 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
That isn't in dispute^^^. The charge is that he allowed his faith to influence his roster decisions. And it's bullshit until someone shows proof.
You're putting some good DC spin on this, I'll grant you that. But you still have yet to explain if Matheny was so good... why did the Cardinals fire him midseason with a winning record?

You know why... he wrecked that clubhouse. You keep asking for proof. The proof is that one of the most image conscious organizations in the league chucked the guy because he lost the clubhouse.
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jd1020 09:28 PM 12-03-2018
Originally Posted by Prison Bitch:
That isn't in dispute^^^. The charge is that he allowed his faith to influence his roster decisions. And it's bullshit until someone shows proof.
So even though if a player that was confirmed in the study group was less productive than the guy on the bench that wouldn't be good enough for you? You need someone to link video of Matheny saying that he directly started a player because he prayed with him that day? :-)
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