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DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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KCChiefsFan88 01:07 PM 09-29-2018
Paging Earl Thomas...
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htismaqe 01:07 PM 09-29-2018
He's not ever going to be the same, even if he plays. :-)
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htismaqe 01:08 PM 09-29-2018
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Paging Earl Thomas...

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TLO 01:09 PM 09-29-2018
Give him some horse crank and get him out on the field!
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DaFace 01:10 PM 09-29-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
He's not ever going to be the same, even if he plays. :-)
I tend to agree. Sounds like he could have surgery on it, but I'm sure it'd be season-ending, and it's not even a guarantee that it'd be dramatically better.

The big issue here is that this isn't an injury - it's a deformity. That means his options are to 1) learn to live with it, 2) try to fix it with no guarantee of improvement, or 3) retire.
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htismaqe 01:12 PM 09-29-2018
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I tend to agree. Sounds like he could have surgery on it, but I'm sure it'd be season-ending, and it's not even a guarantee that it'd be dramatically better.

The big issue here is that this isn't an injury - it's a deformity. That means his options are to 1) learn to live with it, 2) try to fix it with no guarantee of improvement, or 3) retire.
Right. Which means if he plays, he's going to be in pain. He's never going to be 100% again.
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Detoxing 01:12 PM 09-29-2018
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I tend to agree. Sounds like he could have surgery on it, but I'm sure it'd be season-ending, and it's not even a guarantee that it'd be dramatically better.

The big issue here is that this isn't an injury - it's a deformity. That means his options are to 1) learn to live with it, 2) try to fix it with no guarantee of improvement, or 3) retire.
This isn't his first season dealing with this. It's like his 3rd or 4th. Lets not get too over the top about it.

Pugs is claiming he read that it's a 3-6 week recovery after surgery.
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MIAdragon 01:12 PM 09-29-2018
Time to tap out Berry.
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JakeF 01:13 PM 09-29-2018
It needed a different thread.

I still have to wonder whether he was having symtoms during OTAs or not. Did Berry not tell them or did they not examine it thoroughly enough? It certainly would have been nice if he would have had surgery right after the initial prognosis.
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TambaBerry 01:13 PM 09-29-2018
Q
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KILLER_CLOWN 01:14 PM 09-29-2018
What the Heel? ET phone Arrowhead...ET Phone Arrowhead....
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MTG#10 01:14 PM 09-29-2018
You'd think they could cut it open and file it down or something, stitch it back up, wrap real good and rub some dirt on it. Good as new.
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Buehler445 01:15 PM 09-29-2018
Originally Posted by TambaBerry:
Q
Fuck off. Megathreads blow.
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DaFace 01:15 PM 09-29-2018
Originally Posted by Detoxing:
This isn't his first season dealing with this. It's like his 3rd or 4th. Lets not get too over the top about it.

Pugs is claiming he read that it's a 3-6 week recovery after surgery.
The impression I get from reading is that it is something that can get progressively worse, but I'm certainly no expert on the topic.

The AP article is tagged at the end to say they're trying to get a medical expert to weigh in on it, so hopefully we'll have better info later today.
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