Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider:
Much of JW2 seemed too mechanical compared to the first one. Still a good flick, but not on the same level as the original.
agreed, this was just borderline gore porn to me. No real plot to make you give a shit. [Reply]
The first one was a pretty straight forward revenge story with some really interesting supporting characters.
The second one, while still fun, was really silly.
Why would Common's character be singularly focused on killing Wick? How about the brother who forced him to do the hit in the first place? And for that matter, she offed herself - he never laid a hand on her. That was just dumb - like Nero hating Spock dumb. it would have made more sense if they had joined forces.
And as I mentioned shortly after I saw it, in this movie there are two kinds of people - professional assassins with shitty cellphones, and mindless computer game avatars who don't notice anything going on around them. It was so bad I was expecting every tenth person walking by to talk about being a former assassin before taking an arrow to the knee. Seriously, if a bloody guy walking right next to you is engaged in a gunfight, even with a suppressed weapon, YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE IT UNLESS YOU'RE HELEN FUCKING KELLER. And I guess even Helen would smell the gunpowder smoke and assume it might be time to duck. [Reply]
Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.:
yup, as compared to the plot of the first one, this one has as much plot as Sorority Sluts 34
If you're saying the first had as much plot as Sorority Sluts 1, then I guess I can't disagree with you.
Although I kind of think both films succeeded in large part due to their unapologetic lack of plot. Sometimes plot just gets in the way. True for both action and porn. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Frazod:
The first one was a pretty straight forward revenge story with some really interesting supporting characters.
The second one, while still fun, was really silly.
Why would Common's character be singularly focused on killing Wick? How about the brother who forced him to do the hit in the first place? And for that matter, she offed herself - he never laid a hand on her. That was just dumb - like Nero hating Spock dumb. it would have made more sense if they had joined forces.
She killed herself but he still put one in her dome before he left so I guess give her her own way of dying but also showing that he finished the job. Still implausible for Common to think otherwise that he shot her in the head then slit her wrists afterwards. Maybe Common blamed John for being there in the first place and if John wouldn't have come for her then she wouldn't have killed herself to avoid an execution. We also don't know if Common had a more personal relationship with her, which was an unfortunate plot hole. It's not as believable as what you put, but I believed there was some wiggle room with that scene. Not to mention Common could've seen it as two birds with one stone, get the bounty and get a little revenge and be known as the assassin who killed the infamous John Wick. [Reply]
Lumpy and I watched both of them in the last week. I'm sure I am mimicking a lot of opinions here when I say that the second was not nearly the movie the first was. If all you want is action and gun porn, 2 is for you. However, 1 is by far the better movie. Both are weak when it comes to storyline but at least the first had something you could get behind. [Reply]