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Nzoner's Game Room>Let's talk about the 49ers (Super Bowl Edition)
TLO 07:03 PM 01-19-2020
Well Chiefs vs Packers is what I had hoped for, but that's not happening.

Let's talk about Chiefs vs 49ers here.
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smithandrew051 09:45 PM 01-19-2020
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
But you did and that's okay.:-) However, they have to take it to the next level in 2 weeks no doubt.:-)
Absolutely. Plenty of more work to do.

Reid has 2 weeks to get them ready. I expect to see some screens and misdirections early to try to slow them down a bit.
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duncan_idaho 09:46 PM 01-19-2020
Their great pass-rushing DL covers for a lot of the issues in their secondary.

They have not-peak Richard Sherman back there and a bunch of garbage at CB besides that.

Their LBs are a pretty good unit and cover the flats well.

They defend the run really well.

If the Chiefs protect Mahomes, he can make things happen against that D.

The Packers were too conservative on early
downs when the game was in question. Needed to throw more early.

They also set up what, 3 short fields to set up the 27-0 halftime deficit? Protect the football and protect Mahomes and KC wins.

Their run game is excellent, but Garrappolo is not scary at all and isn’t a threat with his feet.

The Packers has really poor backside discipline tonight, and the 49ers burned them a lot with reverses and misdirection.
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Jimmya 09:47 PM 01-19-2020
If the offense can jump on them early... We'll win comfortably!
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FringeNC 09:48 PM 01-19-2020
As good as the Chiefs have played in spurts in the playoff, the cold weather has affected them. The warm Miami weather helps out a pass first team.
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smithandrew051 09:49 PM 01-19-2020
Andy Reid + a Bye Week + a Significant Advantage at QB

That’s almost always a win.
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Mikulik 09:49 PM 01-19-2020
[QUOTE=Chiefshrink;14738354]Yep. Because that is what opens up the passing game. Look at what Pat and Damien did today in order to let Hill score 2 and Sammy his td.. :-) Look at how we stuffed Henry today forcing Tannehill to beat us.[/QUOTE The reason the defense stopped Henry today is because Mahomes was scoring on offense and so the Titans had to play a different way. It had nothing to do with Chiefs defense. You couldn't stop them in the first half.
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DRM08 09:49 PM 01-19-2020
It's gonna be a hell of a battle. Hopefully the Chiefs can get off to a better start than the last two games.
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Callidus 09:52 PM 01-19-2020
I posted this in another thread but got crap for it. I will forgive that because you just won the game


Congratulations and good luck in the superbowl. I hope the titans get a chance to see you in the playoffs next year. Was a good game for 40min then you dominated. Hope you do the same to the 9ers.
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smithandrew051 09:53 PM 01-19-2020
[QUOTE=Mikulik;14738589]
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
Yep. Because that is what opens up the passing game. Look at what Pat and Damien did today in order to let Hill score 2 and Sammy his td.. :-) Look at how we stuffed Henry today forcing Tannehill to beat us.[/QUOTE The reason the defense stopped Henry today is because Mahomes was scoring on offense and so the Titans had to play a different way. It had nothing to do with Chiefs defense. You couldn't stop them in the first half.
Most of the Titans’ scoring drives were heavily aided by boneheaded penalties by the Chiefs. Multiple encroachments and an unnecessary PI by Breeland. Those alone gifted the Titans touchdowns on what should’ve been field goal drives.

Henry was held under 4 yards a carry, so no it wasn’t all about play calling.

If he ran for 6 yards a carry, but his touches were limited you might have a point. That wasn’t the case though.
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pugsnotdrugs19 09:53 PM 01-19-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Their great pass-rushing DL covers for a lot of the issues in their secondary.

They have not-peak Richard Sherman back there and a bunch of garbage at CB besides that.

Their LBs are a pretty good unit and cover the flats well.

They defend the run really well.

If the Chiefs protect Mahomes, he can make things happen against that D.

The Packers were too conservative on early
downs when the game was in question. Needed to throw more early.

They also set up what, 3 short fields to set up the 27-0 halftime deficit? Protect the football and protect Mahomes and KC wins.

Their run game is excellent, but Garrappolo is not scary at all and isn’t a threat with his feet.

The Packers has really poor backside discipline tonight, and the 49ers burned them a lot with reverses and misdirection.
You make a good point about Garoppolo not being mobile and I think that’s big cause when we face QBs like that, the sacks tend to come in bunches.

Just contain Mostert...
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DRM08 09:54 PM 01-19-2020
Originally Posted by Mikulik:
The reason the defense stopped Henry today is because Mahomes was scoring on offense and so the Titans had to play a different way. It had nothing to do with Chiefs defense. You couldn't stop them in the first half.
Not really true. Henry was not running all over them in the 1st half. It was Tannehill's play action passes that were having a ton of success. Niners might be able to do something similar. But point still stands KC did a solid job slowing down Henry, and maybe it opened up other stuff for Titans.
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TwistedChief 09:55 PM 01-19-2020
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
Their great pass-rushing DL covers for a lot of the issues in their secondary.

They have not-peak Richard Sherman back there and a bunch of garbage at CB besides that.

Their LBs are a pretty good unit and cover the flats well.

They defend the run really well.

If the Chiefs protect Mahomes, he can make things happen against that D.

The Packers were too conservative on early
downs when the game was in question. Needed to throw more early.

They also set up what, 3 short fields to set up the 27-0 halftime deficit? Protect the football and protect Mahomes and KC wins.

Their run game is excellent, but Garrappolo is not scary at all and isn’t a threat with his feet.

The Packers has really poor backside discipline tonight, and the 49ers burned them a lot with reverses and misdirection.
I like the more conservative and thoughtful Mahomes of 2020 against that pass rush much more than I would've liked the big play Mahomes of 2019 facing it.
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duncan_idaho 09:55 PM 01-19-2020
[QUOTE=Mikulik;14738589]
Originally Posted by Chiefshrink:
Yep. Because that is what opens up the passing game. Look at what Pat and Damien did today in order to let Hill score 2 and Sammy his td.. :-) Look at how we stuffed Henry today forcing Tannehill to beat us.[/QUOTE The reason the defense stopped Henry today is because Mahomes was scoring on offense and so the Titans had to play a different way. It had nothing to do with Chiefs defense. You couldn't stop them in the first half.

All of the Titans offensive success in the first half came off of play-action. Henry was low impact in the first half and in the game. The Titans never trailed by more than 2 scores in the third quarter and had plenty of opportunity to do their thing with Henry. They couldn’t.
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DRM08 09:57 PM 01-19-2020
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:

Just contain Mostert...
Of course, that is easier said than done. Vikings and Packers probably went in with the #1 priority to slow down Niners run game and Vikes/Pack got destroyed in the trenches by a dominant Niners OL.
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duncan_idaho 09:57 PM 01-19-2020
Originally Posted by TwistedChief:
I like the more conservative and thoughtful Mahomes of 2020 against that pass rush much more than I would've liked the big play Mahomes of 2019 facing it.

Yeah. He’ll get the ball out quickly now when he needs to.
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