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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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suzzer99 06:19 PM 08-04-2021

Dr. Mark Kline Physician-in-Chief at Children's Hospital New Orleans: "We have not had an empty bed in any of our ICUs for weeks. We avoided going on diversion b/c of the responsibility we feel to take care of every child who needs us" but COVID is straining hospital resources pic.twitter.com/zjiZcg3C70

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) August 2, 2021


Dr. Mark Kline Physician-in-Chief at Children's Hospital New Orleans dispels the myth that only children with pre-existing conditions are getting sick: "Half the children we are seeing with COVID were perfectly healthy" pic.twitter.com/ABXzlhJfgR

— Cleavon MD �� (@Cleavon_MD) August 2, 2021


I guess this guy is just a liar or something.
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MahomesMagic 06:40 PM 08-04-2021
Originally Posted by suzzer99:




I guess this guy is just a liar or something.
Cleavon is a known panic porn purveyor.

Is he still working with Rebekah Geo to find the dead bodies in Florida?!
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RaidersOftheCellar 06:46 PM 08-04-2021
Originally Posted by Monticore:
He lied about his trial being FDA approved, what makes you think he is qualified to run any type of trial?
Any doctor making claims about have a 100% effective drug towards any disease should set off some red flags, but the medical world still did their due diligence and like Daface said and all the studies Fish linked it came to the conclusion it didn’t make a significant difference and in some cases caused harm .

If it worked they would use it

You remind me of that lady at 46 sec

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJD1Iw...ature=youtu.be
He said NEAR 100% IF treated within the first 5 days.

Again....the studies that show an insignificant difference are studies of HCQ only. No one claimed to have had wild success with HCQ only. It's the zinc that is most important. HCQ is only necessary to increase intracellular zinc. Treating Covid with HCQ alone makes zero sense.

Don't condescend until you get this basic premise.

And the only studies which have shown harm were studies which used excessive doses in very late-stage treatments.

Here's an interesting tidbit from the global database of HCQ Covid studies (hcqmeta.com):

There is evidence of bias towards publishing negative results. 77% of prospective studies report positive effects, compared to 72% of retrospective studies. Studies from North America are 3.1 times more likely to report negative results than studies from the rest of the world combined, p = 0.0000000081.


46% of studies in North America reported positive effects, compared to 90% in South America, 84% in Asia, 83% in Europe, 80% in Africa and 76% in the Middle East.

Nothing to see there.
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RaidersOftheCellar 06:53 PM 08-04-2021
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Raidersofthecellar is doing a ****ing perfect "Pete" impression. Well done! Just keep making yourself look dumb as hell and ignore what everyone else is saying, then call them idiots for not listening to shit that was discussed like a year ago or more.
You're probably the type of guy who has a hearty laugh when somebody refers to the US as an oligarchy. Your type will always take the propaganda bait hook, line and sinker.

Rag on me all you want, but I'm not saying anything that isn't echoed by Dr Mercola, Bobby Kennedy Jr, or a hundred other prominent individuals who know far more about these subjects than anybody here.
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DaFace 06:57 PM 08-04-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
You're probably the type of guy who has a hearty laugh when somebody refers to the US as an oligarchy. Your type will always take the propaganda bait hook, line and sinker.



Rag on me all you want, but I'm not saying anything that isn't echoed by Dr Mercola, Bobby Kennedy Jr, or a hundred other prominent individuals who know far more about these subjects than anybody here.

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Fish 07:24 PM 08-04-2021
Bobby Kennedy Jr. :-)


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Bearcat 07:37 PM 08-04-2021
I had to Google the Mercola guy and holy shit, I've never seen someone's wiki entry so thoroughly lambaste them within the introduction. :-):-)

Damn those greedy bastard vaccine manufacturers, what about this wholesome guy who's just trying to save the plane---

Originally Posted by :
Mercola was one of the partners in a website called "Stop Covid Cold" offering advice to the public on preventing and treating Covid-19 with alternative remedies. The website includes links to Mercola's online store...

It's always nice when, at the end of a long day of playing "is this guy being stupid on purpose", they wave a huge troll flag with a post that in no way could be anything but trolling.... it's good to have closure on these things.
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RaidersOftheCellar 11:24 PM 08-04-2021
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
I had to Google the Mercola guy and holy shit, I've never seen someone's wiki entry so thoroughly lambaste them within the introduction. :-):-)

Damn those greedy bastard vaccine manufacturers, what about this wholesome guy who's just trying to save the plane---




It's always nice when, at the end of a long day of playing "is this guy being stupid on purpose", they wave a huge troll flag with a post that in no way could be anything but trolling.... it's good to have closure on these things.
Gotta love "guy who talks condescendingly about topic after a 45-second Google search.":-)

Big Tech site has bad things to say about a guy who criticizes the vaccines? Ya don't say....

It's also a huge shock that a doc who has long promoted natural health and sold supplements would sell immune-boosting supplements during a pandemic. That rotten MF's quercetin sales would probably make Pfizer's CEO sob with jealousy.

The Covid vaccine is categorized as an unprecedented vaccine. Others in this category were HIV and malaria. An unprecedented vaccine takes a minimum of 12-15 years to put into production. And even then, after it goes through phase 2 and 3 clinical trials, the rate of effectiveness is about 2%. Legit experts know that it's technically impossible to produce a safe and effective vaccine in under a year.

Schmucks like you believe it has a 95% rate of effectiveness and little to no risk. :-)

P.S. Pfizer sez it's critical for you to get a third shot. Chop chop.
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suzzer99 11:57 PM 08-04-2021

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dlphg9 12:25 AM 08-05-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Gotta love "guy who talks condescendingly about topic after a 45-second Google search.":-)

Big Tech site has bad things to say about a guy who criticizes the vaccines? Ya don't say....

It's also a huge shock that a doc who has long promoted natural health and sold supplements would sell immune-boosting supplements during a pandemic. That rotten MF's quercetin sales would probably make Pfizer's CEO sob with jealousy.

The Covid vaccine is categorized as an unprecedented vaccine. Others in this category were HIV and malaria. An unprecedented vaccine takes a minimum of 12-15 years to put into production. And even then, after it goes through phase 2 and 3 clinical trials, the rate of effectiveness is about 2%. Legit experts know that it's technically impossible to produce a safe and effective vaccine in under a year.

Schmucks like you believe it has a 95% rate of effectiveness and little to no risk. :-)

P.S. Pfizer sez it's critical for you to get a third shot. Chop chop.
When 99% of the people that die are unvaccinated, then any of your whackadoodle arguments mean absolutely nothing. Legit experts? Like the people who made the fucking vaccine weren't legit experts?

Bobby Kennedy Jr. "Legit expert on vaccine safety"

You're just looking more braindead each time you post. Idiot.
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Pitt Gorilla 12:52 AM 08-05-2021
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
When 99% of the people that die are unvaccinated, then any of your whackadoodle arguments mean absolutely nothing. Legit experts? Like the people who made the ****ing vaccine weren't legit experts?

Bobby Kennedy Jr. "Legit expert on vaccine safety"

You're just looking more braindead each time you post. Idiot.
It doesn't seem fair that Covid appears to be disproportionately attacking the unvaccinated.
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Monticore 04:37 AM 08-05-2021
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Gotta love "guy who talks condescendingly about topic after a 45-second Google search.":-)

Big Tech site has bad things to say about a guy who criticizes the vaccines? Ya don't say....

It's also a huge shock that a doc who has long promoted natural health and sold supplements would sell immune-boosting supplements during a pandemic. That rotten MF's quercetin sales would probably make Pfizer's CEO sob with jealousy.

The Covid vaccine is categorized as an unprecedented vaccine. Others in this category were HIV and malaria. An unprecedented vaccine takes a minimum of 12-15 years to put into production. And even then, after it goes through phase 2 and 3 clinical trials, the rate of effectiveness is about 2%. Legit experts know that it's technically impossible to produce a safe and effective vaccine in under a year.

Schmucks like you believe it has a 95% rate of effectiveness and little to no risk. :-)

P.S. Pfizer sez it's critical for you to get a third shot. Chop chop.
Let’s say you managed to convince everyone here , they are still not going to recommend it and not because there is a global conspiracy to line big pharma’s pockets but because it doesn’t make a difference .

What are your qualifications is medicine that you would be even able to tell who would qualify as a legit expert .
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stevieray 05:13 AM 08-05-2021
Originally Posted by DaFace:
:-)

We can always trust you to chime in with an irrelevant snipe at people for no reason.
look in the mirror.

there is a reason it's called two cents.

between us we don't have a plug nickel.
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DaFace 07:00 AM 08-05-2021
Originally Posted by stevieray:
look in the mirror.

there is a reason it's called two cents.

between us we don't have a plug nickel.
Someone's gonna have to explain to me what this means.
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loochy 07:16 AM 08-05-2021
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Someone's gonna have to explain to me what this means.
both sides can throw in their two cents


but overall it's pretty worthless because if you add both sides together you don't even have a nickel
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