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Nzoner's Game Room>Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT
Sofa King 01:40 PM 02-10-2021
Moving on from Fisher? Probably not.

Cap room for him? Not really, but moves could be made.

Draft capital for him? Maybe, but we're awfully low in the draft.

Tunsil trade (For record-keeping purposes, the trade saw the Dolphins acquire first-round picks in 2020 and 2021 and a second-round pick in 2021 along with offensive tackle Julién Davenport and defensive back Johnson Bademosi in exchange for Tunsil, wide receiver Kenny Stills, a 2020 fourth-round pick and a 2021 sixth-round selection.)



https://www.nfl.com/news/orlando-bro...nts-to-play-lt


It only took the Ravens a little over a year to learn their selection of Orlando Brown was a wise one, but they've met a new challenge with the tackle that could be their last.

Brown has expressed his desire to be traded, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported Wednesday. After spending the majority of 2020 on the left side in place of the injured Ronnie Stanley, Brown has found his comfort zone and does not want to return to the right side. He'll only play for a team that will line him up at his preferred left tackle position, per Rapoport.

Rapoport added the Ravens value Brown significantly and would need major compensation in order to do a deal.

Brown's background is on the left side, but he ended up in Baltimore as a right tackle after a poor pre-draft showing saw him slide from a first-round projection to an eventual third-round pick of the Ravens. He blossomed in 2019 and especially in 2020 after switching to the left side to replace Stanley, earning his second straight trip to the Pro Bowl -- and first as an initial selection. Thanks to Brown's quick adjustment to the left side of the line, Baltimore didn't lose much in offensive production following Stanley's injury, finishing as the league's No. 1 rushing offense for a second straight season.

Brown's success on the left side and desire to remain there might very well also be tied to the financial ramifications of the tackle position. As it currently stands, there is a $5 million per year difference between the league's highest-paid right tackle (Philadelphia's Lane Johnson) and left tackle (Green Bay's David Bakhtiari). Of the top 10 highest-paid tackles in the NFL (in terms of average salary per year), only two -- Johnson and Las Vegas' Trent Brown -- are right tackles.

Orlando Brown missed out on significant money typically afforded to first-round picks right around the moment when he racked the bar after just 14 bench-press reps during a nightmarish 2018 NFL Scouting Combine. He's made a little over $1.8 million in base salary total in his first three seasons, and though he will see a significant boost in 2021 (base salary of $3.38 million) due to the structure of his rookie deal, that's still an incredibly far cry from where tackles of his level land in compensation ranking.

After demonstrating his ability to effectively handle the transition from right to left tackle -- a return to his roots, essentially -- Brown is in a prime position to capitalize financially and beyond. He'll maximize his earning potential by remaining a left tackle, and he'll probably enjoy playing the game a bit more in a stance and vantage point that's more familiar to him, anyway.


If that doesn't fit in Baltimore, the Ravens will have to move him. And though this isn't exactly the best way to ensure maximum leverage in a deal, they'll probably still get a haul for him.
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htismaqe 12:57 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
34 arm length is the NFL OT starter average
90% of the guys in this draft class are under 34".
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staylor26 01:00 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by New World Order:
It prob won't happen, but what if the Samoan Peni falls to 13thish.

Would you try to move up to take him?
If he falls to 13, he’ll be a Charger.

Not happening though.

His floor is the Panthers at 8 IMO.
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htismaqe 01:01 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by New World Order:
It prob won't happen, but what if the Samoan Peni falls to 13thish.

Would you try to move up to take him?
Here's the thing with Sewell. Even he showed some flaws on tape, namely that he's still pretty raw and needs to work on technique.

He started half the season as a true freshman and then got hurt and missed the other half of the season. He started to really come on in 2019 as a sophomore but then opted out of his junior year. So he play a season and a half of college football and the tape on him is now 2 years old.

Even he has question marks.
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htismaqe 01:01 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
If he falls to 13, he’ll be a Charger.

Not happening though.

His floor is the Panthers at 8 IMO.
I agree.
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Tribal Warfare 01:01 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
90% of the guys in this draft class are under 34".


Which is fascinating because of that caveat
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New World Order 01:06 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
If he falls to 13, he’ll be a Charger.

Not happening though.

His floor is the Panthers at 8 IMO.
I understand that but if you had the option to give up picks to get him would you do it?
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staylor26 01:07 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by New World Order:
I understand that but if you had the option to give up picks to get him would you do it?
Yea if I’m doing a mega trade it might as well be for a guy like Sewell.
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RunKC 01:09 PM 04-15-2021

Another reason why the Raiders should draft Jenkins....

Keep him away from the Chiefs https://t.co/HhOI2r5URc

— Ted Nguyen (@FB_FilmAnalysis) April 15, 2021

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htismaqe 01:10 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
Which is fascinating because of that caveat
It's also a big reason why I'm not all that impressed with the "quality" this draft.

It's deep for sure, probably one of the deepest LT drafts in recent memory but there's very little at the top in terms of blue chip talent.

Sewell has question marks, a lot people think Slater will be a guard when it's all said and done, and Darrisaw is far from polished.
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htismaqe 01:11 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
He'd be a better fit for the Raiders honestly.

And on the plus side, then they wouldn't take JOK, who I'm seeing mocked to them more frequently.
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RunKC 01:14 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
He'd be a better fit for the Raiders honestly.

And on the plus side, then they wouldn't take JOK, who I'm seeing mocked to them more frequently.
What is it you don’t like about Jenkins? I think his arm length is passable. He has good quick feet, decent hands and very good strength.

He may not be as athletic as Fisher, but he’s way stronger. Dude did 36 reps on the bench and can anchor very well.

Remember Fisher getting walked back to the QB by elite pass rushers? That ain’t happening to Jenkins
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lcarus 01:17 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by staylor26:
I honestly don’t think so, but once you get under 33” that’s really pushing it. There aren’t many starting OT’s with arms that short.
Exactly. We don't want a tyrannosaurus rex out there at left tackle. Biting someone in half is an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty so that won't work.
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mkp785 01:18 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
He'd be a better fit for the Raiders honestly.

And on the plus side, then they wouldn't take JOK, who I'm seeing mocked to them more frequently.
I'd love for him, Rosseneau or (smaller chance) Caleb Farley to fall to 31. Farley would be amazing since he was the highest ranked CB that I saw, till his injury whatevers. Hopefully with all these QBs going in the 1st there will be some quality guys at our spot.
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staylor26 01:18 PM 04-15-2021
Originally Posted by RunKC:
What is it you don’t like about Jenkins? I think his arm length is passable. He has good quick feet, decent hands and very good strength.

He may not be as athletic as Fisher, but he’s way stronger. Dude did 36 reps on the bench and can anchor very well.

Remember Fisher getting walked back to the QB by elite pass rushers? That ain’t happening to Jenkins
Exactly.

The kind of speed that will give Jenkins issues is the kind of speed that gives everybody issues. He has some good tape against speed. The difference between Fisher and Jenkins is that Jenkins isn’t going to be physically dominated like Harrison or Bosa for example did to Fisher.
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The Franchise 01:23 PM 04-15-2021
The Raiders need defense. They’d be dumb to take a RT that high.
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