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Nzoner's Game Room>Per Verderame: Veach would prefer to keep Chris Jones
RunKC 09:27 AM 02-10-2020
Interesting article here. Not a huge fan of Verderame but he was at the Super Bowl and he does go to the combine. I think he gets some tips, albeit from Terez (who is a nice guy).

Here is the most interesting part of the article. 2021 and 2022 would be extremely difficult to manage.

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What the Chiefs can do with their money

Looking at Kansas City’s cap situation, it can release wide receiver Sammy Watkins and linebacker Damien Wilson, clearing out $18.5 million in space. Combined with rollover money and already existing room, that’s enough cash for Veach to tag Jones, re-sign a few other pending free agents and extend Patrick Mahomes.

Speaking of Mahomes, the 24-year-old quarterback is likely to soon be the highest-paid player in the league. This is another important factor to consider.

Let’s play GM for a moment and do the following to the Chiefs’ roster:

•Cut Sammy Watkins
•Cut Damien Wilson
•Cut Cam Erving

Extend Patrick Mahomes on a five-year, $200 million deal
Use franchise tag on Chris Jones
Allow $10 million for free agents and draft picks
Keep $2 million in emergency space
Using the Jared Goff and Carson Wentz extension structures as a template, Mahomes’ cap hit would approximately be $11 million this season. Factor in Jones’ tag and the $12 million outlined above, and Kansas City is laying out $35 million.

The Chiefs could do it. But while it’s palatable for 2020, what about 2021 and beyond?

If Kansas City gave Mahomes the aforementioned extension, his cap number would be enormous in 2021, potentially the full $40 million figure. If the Chiefs also signed Jones to Clark’s exact deal, the cap number would be $22.7 million in 2021.

If we account for a slight rise in the NFL salary cap both this year and next, it’ll be around $210 million. Under these parameters, Kansas City would be looking at the following cap hits in 2021:

Patrick Mahomes ($40M)
Frank Clark ($24.2M)
Chris Jones ($22.7)
Tyrann Mathieu ($19.7M)
Tyreek Hill ($15.7M)
In total, the top five players on the Chiefs would be earning $122.3 million, or 58 percent of the salary cap.

Going into this offseason with a projected $200 million salary cap, only one team is currently allocating more than 50 percent to their top five players: the Los Angeles Rams at 54 percent.

Kansas City can always create cap space with extensions and releases, but tying up such a large chunk of money in five players is dangerous. The Chiefs would be largely unable to sign any other meaningful free agents for a few years — including their own — while being completely reliant on the draft to restock departing talent.

In his three years at the helm, Veach has proven to believe in acquiring top-shelf talent and filling in around them with low-cost, high-upside veteran deals (see: Damien Williams, Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pennel) and rookie deals.

Jones certainly fits Veach’s profile. The question is if he fits into Kansas City’s payroll.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03:48 PM 02-21-2020
James Palmer said yesterday that Jones will more than likely be tagged and he said keep an eye out on us possibly re signing Fuller
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pugsnotdrugs19 04:13 PM 02-21-2020
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!:
James Palmer said yesterday that Jones will more than likely be tagged and he said keep an eye out on us possibly re signing Fuller
Wouldn’t shock me, I’m sure they love his versatility
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RunKC 04:23 PM 02-21-2020
In my thread the day after the Super Bowl, Pugs and I agreed that if we could keep one FA outside of Jones, it would be Fuller.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...Kendall+Fuller

Makes sense. He’s 25, he’s Veach’s guy and he can play anywhere in the secondary which Spags loves.

I would imagine Veach will try to keep him, but I just don’t know if we can. He’s going to be worth at least $11 million AAV
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Sassy Squatch 04:33 PM 02-21-2020
He also played really well in the latter part of the Super Bowl
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The Franchise 04:45 PM 02-21-2020
I don’t see Fuller getting $11 million AAV.
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MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 04:50 PM 02-21-2020
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Wouldn’t shock me, I’m sure they love his versatility
That’s exactly what Palmer said. Noted how he played safety a lot and played it very well. He’s a versatile player. Tbh tho I have no idea how much he would cost
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The Franchise 05:06 PM 02-21-2020
Fix your fat thumbs, staylor. :-)
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staylor26 09:54 PM 02-21-2020
Originally Posted by The Franchise:
Fix your fat thumbs, staylor. :-)
:-)

I didn’t even realize that I did it this time. Sorry dude. I think I’ve figured out that part of the problem is I literally scroll down exactly where the thumbs down button is lol. I agree though. I’ll be shocked if he gets that much.
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Jerok 10:16 PM 02-21-2020
If we sign Pennell or snacks instead of Chris and improve our run defense, teams will have to throw, and we can outthrow teams any day. The picks plus the money is very much worth considering. I'm very interested to see what the Chiefs do.

In my opinion the worst option is tag and play. We either extend or tag and trade.
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BossChief 11:28 PM 02-21-2020
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
Wouldn’t shock me, I’m sure they love his versatility
The coaching staff loves versatility. With Thornhill getting hurt so late in the year, he might not be ready to go right away. In a year when every game means so much those few games before Juan gets back are crucial. Having Fuller back would help the whole secondary right out of the gates and down the stretch.

Like everyone else, it depends on cost.
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RealSNR 12:08 AM 02-22-2020
Originally Posted by BossChief:
The coaching staff loves versatility. With Thornhill getting hurt so late in the year, he might not be ready to go right away. In a year when every game means so much those few games before Juan gets back are crucial. Having Fuller back would help the whole secondary right out of the gates and down the stretch.

Like everyone else, it depends on cost.
Remember just a year ago when Jordan Lucas was arguably our best safety?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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BossChief 12:58 AM 02-22-2020
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Remember just a year ago when Jordan Lucas was arguably our best safety?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.
The system we have in place is amazing how everyone works so well with each other.

The owner has spent elite money to build a massive coaching staff and scouting department.

Veach has provided those coaches with a great blend of veteran and young talent that all range from solid to elite and a good amount of them have displayed big time leadership ability.

It’s just really fun to watch this system work.
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Chief Roundup 08:58 AM 02-22-2020
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Remember just a year ago when Jordan Lucas was arguably our best safety?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Uh no. I have a feeling that there must be a joke that I am missing.
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RunKC 09:13 AM 02-22-2020
If we can keep Jones and Fuller while adding a corner and LB in the draft...hoo boy.
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Spott 10:55 AM 02-22-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
Uh no. I have a feeling that there must be a joke that I am missing.
Pepperidge Farm remembers Family Guy cutaways.
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