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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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dirk digler 09:02 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Am I reading this correctly? We've gone from a rolling 7-day death average of 516/day on July 5 to 918/day on July 24?

Probably. We have been over 1k deaths for the last 5 days right?
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O.city 09:03 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
Education can also be done from home.
Then it isn’t essential and we should not have to pay the taxes we do for school?
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petegz28 09:03 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Probably. We have been over 1k deaths for the last 5 days right?
Close, we have been over 1k deaths for the last 4 days.
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O.city 09:04 AM 07-25-2020
What if the deaths actually happened in May and are just now being counted

Does that?
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petegz28 09:05 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
What if the deaths actually happened in May and are just now being counted

Does that?
You kinda wonder about some of that, right? That can go for case counts as well.
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Donger 09:06 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
What if the deaths actually happened in May and are just now being counted

Does that?
What makes you think that's happening?
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dirk digler 09:07 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
So the other studies aren’t ok and too small but the ones rhat say what you think are ok? Confirmation bias?
Dr Jha is a leading expert on this so I will take his word for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/h...n-schools.html

Originally Posted by :
Several studies from Europe and Asia have suggested that young children are less likely to get infected and to spread the virus. But most of those studies were small and flawed, said Dr. Ashish Jha, director of the Harvard Global Health Institute.

The new study “is very carefully done, it’s systematic and looks at a very large population,” Dr. Jha said. “It’s one of the best studies we’ve had to date on this issue.”

Other experts also praised the scale and rigor of the analysis. South Korean researchers identified 5,706 people who were the first to report Covid-19 symptoms in their households between Jan. 20 and March 27, when schools were closed, and then traced the 59,073 contacts of these “index cases.” They tested all of the household contacts of each patient, regardless of symptoms, but only tested symptomatic contacts outside the household.

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kgrund 09:12 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
What makes you think that's happening?
Sometimes I think your only window to the outside world is CNN and this thread. It is widely reported in many instances on twitter and backed by support from various local, county, and state health sites.
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Donger 09:15 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by kgrund:
Sometimes I think your only window to the outside world is CNN and this thread. It is widely reported in many instances on twitter and backed by support from various local, county, and state health sites.
That's nice, but I'm not looking at CNN to get those figures.

The fact remains that new case growth began to increase in mid-June. We began seeing increased deaths in early July.
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O.city 09:17 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
That's nice, but I'm not looking at CNN to get those figures.

The fact remains that new case growth began to increase in mid-June. We began seeing increased deaths in early July.
You can easily find dates on reported deaths.

They definitely show a rise in July but there’s a lot of death cert counting and backlog just now being counter
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O.city 09:18 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Dr Jha is a leading expert on this so I will take his word for it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/h...n-schools.html
So if I find leading experts that say other wise ?
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Donger 09:21 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
You can easily find dates on reported deaths.

They definitely show a rise in July but there’s a lot of death cert counting and backlog just now being counter
Great. So if it's easy, can you show that deaths of any significant quantity that are being reported now actually happened in May?
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O.city 09:22 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
You can easily find dates on reported deaths.

They definitely show a rise in July but there’s a lot of death cert counting and backlog just now being counter
https://twitter.com/prof_jtaylor/sta...637573633?s=21

Here’s Florida deaths by date of occurrence
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dirk digler 09:25 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
So if I find leading experts that say other wise ?
That is fine I am interested in reading it all. I read the study about Germany schools a couple of weeks ago.

We are going to know soon enough anyway I think.
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O.city 09:26 AM 07-25-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
That is fine I am interested in reading it all. I read the study about Germany schools a couple of weeks ago.

We are going to know soon enough anyway I think.
I honestly don’t know the answer

I’m pretty pissed we didn’t take the last four months to do as much as possible to figure out the schools issue atleast more than we have

Frustrating
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