Originally Posted by NewChief:
Darkseid. Parademon. Apokalips.
Man, I knew there was a reason I was a Marvel fanboy over DC. I just didn't realize it was as simple as naming conventions.
Ha.
I've always been a Marvel over DC guy as well, but I seem to like DC graphic novels far better than Marvel's. Strange. I particularly like Marvel's cosmic storylines over DC's, and that very much includes Thanos over Darkseid. This applies to the movie lines to this point as well - the MCU has FAR exceeded the DCU. [Reply]
I've always been a Marvel over DC guy as well, but I seem to like DC graphic novels far better than Marvel's. Strange. I particularly like Marvel's cosmic storylines over DC's, and that very much includes Thanos over Darkseid. This applies to the movie lines to this point as well - the MCU has FAR exceeded the DCU.
I still think it's a matter of quantity over quality. I know there's a group hate-on for Man of Steel, but I think it and BvS are both at least on par with either Avengers movie. The last two Captain America movies are better, but they have the benefit of established characters in an established universe. Guardians of the Galaxy was good. But after that what is there? The first Iron Man doesn't really hold up now, as great as Downey is in the role, and the next two weren't very good. Neither Thor movie was particularly good (though I liked them both). There's a lot of 'meh' there, in overall Marvel terms, but they helped establish the overall universe. Wheras we only have two DC universe movies so far. That's all.
I'd say check back in a year or two, once we see what Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman and Justice League turn out to be, and we can actually compare the two on a bit more equal terms. If they turn out to be anywhere close to as good as the trailers this weekend were, we might well be talking about the two cinematic universes on relatively even footing. Time will tell. [Reply]
Originally Posted by keg in kc:
I still think it's a matter of quantity over quality. I know there's a group hate-on for Man of Steel, but I think it and BvS are both at least on par with either Avengers movie. The last two Captain America movies are better, but they have the benefit of established characters in an established universe. Guardians of the Galaxy was good. But after that what is there? The first Iron Man doesn't really hold up now, as great as Downey is in the role, and the next two weren't very good. Neither Thor movie was particularly good (though I liked them both). There's a lot of 'meh' there, in overall Marvel terms, but they helped establish the overall universe. Wheras we only have two DC universe movies so far. That's all.
I'd say check back in a year or two, once we see what Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman and Justice League turn out to be, and we can actually compare the two on a bit more equal terms. If they turn out to be anywhere close to as good as the trailers this weekend were, we might well be talking about the two cinematic universes on relatively even footing. Time will tell.
I agree. The Man of Steel took a while to grow on me because it was such different take but I really enjoy the film today. As mentioned in the thread, I finally watched BvS UE last night and was blown away. I don't understand all of the criticism I've seen on a CP but I didn't see the theatrical and I'm not a comic book reader.
Outside of Ant Man, Guardians and Winter Soldier, the Marvel movies for me have been a gigantic "Meh". As you pointed out, Iron Man no longer holds up, the Thor movies aren't good, the Hulk movies have been crap, Iron Man 2 was awful, three was a little better, Captain America was sooooooo slow and boring and so on. And my dislike of the Avengers movies is well documented.
I'm really surprised at the reaction to BvS but if all of the changes at WB make for even better DC films, I'm all for it. The Justice League and Suicide Squad trailers look awesome and personally, I loved Affleck as Batman, so I'm looking forward to his stand alone film. [Reply]
Sweet trailer, looking forward to the next installation. I also recently watched BvS -- thought the first half was a little disjointed, but after that, I was all in. This looks even better, although who really knows from the trailer. [Reply]
A brooding, ripped, enigmatic, aloof Aquaman seems pretty fucking perfect. They need to get as far away as possible from the absurd, useless, orange-suited third-rate banana that we all think of when we think Aquaman.
So far I like the casting, though I definitely would've been fine with whathisname from the Flash TV show being in the movie.
Glad they're lightening the mood too. Too fucking dark. If you want to do stand-alones with a darker-themed Dark Knight, that's fine, but when you expand the scope to Justice League, I'll take something a little less pessimistic and grim, please, thankyouverymuch. [Reply]
