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ROYC75 04:26 PM 08-12-2014
Discussion: All things Broncos.
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New World Order 11:08 AM 05-12-2022
Look at Courtland Sutton's stats.

He's basically been JuJu.
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RaidersOftheCellar 11:14 AM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Look at Courtland Sutton's stats.

He's basically been JuJu.
Smith-Schuster's best year was much better than Sutton's. He put up 1400+ yards while sharing the field with Antonio Brown in his prime.
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MagicHef 11:23 AM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Look at Courtland Sutton's stats.

He's basically been JuJu.
*While playing with Case Keenum, Joe Flacco, Drew Lock and Teddy Bridgewater as opposed to Ben Roethlisberger.
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staylor26 11:48 AM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
*While playing with Case Keenum, Joe Flacco, Drew Lock and Teddy Bridgewater as opposed to Ben Roethlisberger.
You mean the corpse of Ben Roethlisberger that the Steelers basically forced to retire?
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austing24 12:10 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by Mile High Mania:
Kelce is a beast... but no, at this point I would take Sutton, Patrick, Jeudy and Hamler over the non-Kelce options you have provided.

First, let me remove by far the best receiving weapon either team has… then we’ll make the comparison. Right.

If you include Kelce, KC has a better playcaller, QB, offensive line and overall set of receiving weapons. The only offensive position group for Denver that exceeds KC’s is running back, but not in any significantly impactful manner. KC’s offense is top to bottom the best in the AFC west and close to tops in the league even without Hill (and yes, Mahomes and Reid being the best at what they do in the most important positions on a football team play the biggest role in that).


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New World Order 12:15 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You mean the corpse of Ben Roethlisberger that the Steelers basically forced to retire?
He played with Mason Rudolph and Devin Hodges in 19 as well.
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MagicHef 12:16 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You mean the corpse of Ben Roethlisberger that the Steelers basically forced to retire?
Yes, I do.

The corpse of Ben Roethlisberger had 22 TDs and 10 INTs last year (his worst season). That is better than any Broncos QB has had since Sutton was drafted.
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staylor26 12:19 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Yes, I do.

The corpse of Ben Roethlisberger had 22 TDs and 10 INTs last year (his worst season). That is better than any Broncos QB has had since Sutton was drafted.
Bridgewater and Lock combined for 20 TDs and 9 INTs last year.

So basically the same.
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RaidersOftheCellar 12:19 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You mean the corpse of Ben Roethlisberger that the Steelers basically forced to retire?
They're so desperate to convince themselves that they're on KC's level. Propping up Roethlisberger now? He's been awful for two years.
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MagicHef 12:30 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by staylor26:
Bridgewater and Lock combined for 20 TDs and 9 INTs last year.

So basically the same.
Neat. The Broncos' best QB situation since Sutton came along is nearly as good as Roethlisberger's worst year.
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MagicHef 12:31 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
They're so desperate to convince themselves that they're on KC's level. Propping up Roethlisberger now? He's been awful for two years.
Roethlisberger has been awful for two years, you're right.

Denver's QBs have been worse.
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RaidersOftheCellar 12:36 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Yes, I do.

The corpse of Ben Roethlisberger had 22 TDs and 10 INTs last year (his worst season). That is better than any Broncos QB has had since Sutton was drafted.
Have you ever asked yourself why all your QBs have worse results in Denver, with that allegedly great roster (that somehow managed to entirely elude the Pro Bowl)?

Keenum killed it for Minnesota the year before. Turdwater threw for way more yards and a higher comp % for a terrible team the year before. He also went 5-0 for NO a year earlier and 11-5 for Minn a few years before that. Flacco was worse in Denver. Lock was a pretty high draft pick with potential. His stock plummeted each season.

Have you ever considered that maybe your roster isn't nearly as good as you think?
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ptlyon 12:38 PM 05-12-2022
I think it's the access to drugs, man
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MagicHef 12:42 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar:
Have you ever asked yourself why all your QBs have worse results in Denver, with that allegedly great roster (that somehow managed to entirely elude the Pro Bowl)?

Keenum killed it for Minnesota the year before. Turdwater threw for way more yards and a higher comp % for a terrible team the year before. He also went 5-0 for NO a year earlier and 11-5 for Minn a few years before that. Flacco was worse in Denver. Lock was a pretty high draft pick with potential. His stock plummeted each season.

Have you ever considered that maybe your roster isn't nearly as good as you think?
Sounds like you're blaming Denver's coaching. I'd agree.
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RaidersOftheCellar 12:42 PM 05-12-2022
Originally Posted by MagicHef:
Roethlisberger has been awful for two years, you're right.

Denver's QBs have been worse.
Or did Roethlisberger have better weapons?
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