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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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DanT 10:02 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by RunKC:
“This is going to be our Pearl Harbor moment, our 9/11 moment,” U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams

How bad do we think this week is gonna be?
Sadly, we'll likely lose more this week than we lost in both of those events combined. According to the references in this story, we lost 2,335 military personnel in the Pearl Harbor attack and 2,977 in the 9/11 terrorist attack. For the upcoming week, the IHME model is projecting daily deaths counts from COVID-19 of at least 1,000 every day this upcoming week. https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
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TLO 10:02 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by blake5676:
Missouri was at somewhere around 2k projected deaths a few updates ago and now we're all the way down to 350ish? And last update had our peak all the way in late May and now we're back to peaking in about two weeks.
Right?? I have no idea what's happening.
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DanT 10:07 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by blake5676:
Missouri was at somewhere around 2k projected deaths a few updates ago and now we're all the way down to 350ish? And last update had our peak all the way in late May and now we're back to peaking in about two weeks.
I believe that is because Governor Parson just issued a Stay-at-Home order, which will take effect Monday. https://news.stlpublicradio.org/post...order#stream/0

The IHME model assumes that the effect of that order will be dramatic. You can see at the IHME website what actions have been or will be taken and when.
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jerryaldini 10:24 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by KS Smitty:
"...assuming full social distancing"

I think we all can agree that that isn't happening and I sure hope those projections are off. Just based off traffic on the roadways here very few people are truly only going out for essentials and when they do they have no regard for social distancing when they're after a specific thing.
Missouri is one of seven remaining states with an F grade for distancing using cell phone data. The others are Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Iowa, Oklahoma, Wyoming. Jackson County has a D grade. That's why there's so much upside in their data if they improve quickly.

https://www.unacast.com/covid19/soci...ing-scoreboard
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arrwheader 10:27 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by DanT:
Sadly, we'll likely lose more this week than we lost in both of those events combined. According to the references in this story, we lost 2,335 military personnel in the Pearl Harbor attack and 2,977 in the 9/11 terrorist attack. For the upcoming week, the IHME model is projecting daily deaths counts from COVID-19 of at least 1,000 every day this upcoming week. https://covid19.healthdata.org/projections
This whole comparison of the virus death's to people dying in war time attacks is dumb. We don't say that about people dying from heart disease or whatever else that kills hundreds of thousands of people a day.

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Pitt Gorilla 10:34 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by BWillie:
Pat Robertson has always been on of the most ignorant person on the planet.
There's zero chance he's actually that ****ing stupid.
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Ninerfan11 10:46 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by LiveSteam:
I believe projections of death are off by a factor of over 10.
I pray Im right
You might be...the models are c9onstantly changing
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srvy 10:47 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
It's cuz SRVY is a complete jackass and should kill himself.
Awe hurt some feels little boy?

Go out for a drive and stall on a RR track.
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dlphg9 10:52 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by srvy:
Awe hurt some feels little boy?

Go out for a drive and stall on a RR track.
That'd probably be a death sentence for someone with your intelligence, but not for me. I'd just get out of my car and walk to safety.
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srvy 10:55 PM 04-05-2020
yeah, you strike me as a real genius.
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DanT 10:57 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by arrwheader:
This whole comparison of the virus death's to people dying in war time attacks is dumb. We don't say that about people dying from heart disease or whatever else that kills hundreds of thousands of people a day.

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In the United States in 2017, there were 647,457 deaths from heart disease, about 1,800 per day.( https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lea...s-of-death.htm ) The total number of deaths that year was 2,813,503 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm), about 7,700 per day. Having a 2 or 3 thousand die in one day from a virus is notable, which is why the Surgeon General made the remarks he did. In the first source I cited, the number of "influenza and pneumonia" deaths for 2017 was 55,672, about 150 per day.
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Chief Pagan 11:00 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by LiveSteam:
So. NY has over 200 deaths per million and California has 4.5 per million.
That. Or AM radio is lying
San Francisco and then CA shut things down quicker than NYC and NY.

Mayor of NYC was resistant, especially to closing schools.

I don't know about the whole state but the little part I see, the traffic is way way down. People generally look like they take it seriously.

There is probably some randomness with small groups getting sick at the beginning and seeding the spread. Maybe NY got unlucky.

CA is one of the least obese states so that might also be helping to keep the deaths down.
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srvy 11:01 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by DanT:
In the United States in 2017, there were 647,457 deaths from heart disease, about 1,800 per day.( https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/lea...s-of-death.htm ) The total number of deaths that year was 2,813,503 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm), about 7,700 per day. Having a 2 or 3 thousand die in one day from a virus is notable, which is why the Surgeon General made the remarks he did. In the first source I cited, the number of "influenza and pneumonia" deaths for 2017 was 55,672, about 150 per day.
I wonder what % of the population gets flu shots and also wonder what the number of deaths before flu shots were a thing.
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PAChiefsGuy 04-05-2020, 11:02 PM
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arrowheadnation 11:08 PM 04-05-2020
Showing signs of turning the corner....a hint of positivity?
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PAChiefsGuy 11:09 PM 04-05-2020
Originally Posted by arrowheadnation:
Showing signs of turning the corner....a hint of positivity?
Hopefully... See how this week goes.

Trump seems confident but medical experts are urging caution so who the **** knows honestly..

But within a week we should start to see the flattening of the curve for sure. The worst is almost over!
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