I actually think Rodgers gets it because the actual voters don't think he has better talent around them than Mahomes and he has somewhat better stats... It's ridiculous that they discount the Oline injuries and poor play that Mahomes has had to play behind the last half of the season.
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Someone could make the argument that in 2013, Brady was more impressive than Manning (55 touchdown season) because he had an inferior roster, but still went 12-4, beat Manning head to head, and earned a playoff bye. One voter did in fact vote for Brady, which denied Manning a unanimous MVP in 2013

Guys carry bad rosters every year. That’s not what the award is for. Mahomes won his MVP because he had the big numbers, he had the value argument over Brees (Chiefs had a far inferior defense) and he had the highlight plays and big moments.
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I'm thinking I may have to invest in a defibrillator!
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[QUOTE=Best22;15428333]Mahomes won his MVP because he had the big numbers, he had the value argument over Brees (Chiefs had a far inferior defense) and he had the highlight plays and big moments.[/QUOTE]

:-):-):-):-):-)

Yes...he did. {satisfied sigh}
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Aaron Jones is better, yes.
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Rodgers benefits from far superior line play and running game. Both make things so much easier for a QB. Mahomes has got the shit kicked out of him this year, especially the 2nd half of the season. The numbers he is putting up despite his line is astonishing.

If I had a vote I'd give it to Mahomes because he's more valuable to his team, finished with a better record and comparable statistical seasons (Rodgers slightly better statistically, especially down the stretch)
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I don't really know why Chiefs fans won't give Rodgers his due. He's having one of the best years for a QB...ever. Not that Mahomes is bad, he isn't, but Rodgers doesn't even have the weapons the Chiefs do. The Chiefs have the fastest WR in the history of football. They have the best tight end in the history of football. They have the best offensive scheme mind in the history of football.

Everyone acts like Rodgers couldn't play behind our line. It isn't like we have the worst line in football. Guys like Mahomes who hold onto the ball and then run around to make plays don't do offensive lines any favors, either. I wouldn't have it any other way but it's the truth. Rodgers can still scramble a little bit, and manipulate the pocket to create angles even at 37. He wouldn't just be a sitting duck like Brady if he was behind our line.

To play devils advocate, part of me thinks Mahomes wouldn't be quite as good without Andy Reid. This Andy Reid system is amazing. Just look at the history of Reid's QBs. They aren't great but he routinely makes them look better. He damn near dragged Donovan McNabb to the HOF. He made Alex Smith put up HOF numbers in 2018. He finally gets an elite QB in Mahomes and promptly wins the Super Bowl.
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Now IMO, I DGAF because the Chiefs have the #1 seed
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BUT IF PEOPLE WANT TO KEEP YAPPING ABOUT "WEAPONS" WHY ISN'T THE SAME SAID ABOUT STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE? YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
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There is an argument that for guys like Mahomes, the offensive line matters the LEAST to guys like them. O-line play always matters but if you compare a QB's need for a good offensive line for guys like Tom Brady who is a sitting duck. Then guys like Watson, Mahomes, Roethlisberger who like to hold onto the ball to buy time so they can play back yard football one could argue that the o-line is less important for these guys than anybody else.

And the idea that Mahomes is more valuable to his team than anyone else...I'm not sure that is true because of Andy Reid's system. Mahomes can be the best QB in the league, but because Andy Reid's system is so effective who the QB is matters less than it does for other teams who lack such a offensive genius. We saw how this team can do with a shit QB like Alex Smith and it does just fine, just not Super Bowl material. GB without Rodgers is a disaster.
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Mahomes is having a great season too. Take a look at this list and tell me what you see. Points Added Above Average QB performance.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr/_/view/...qbpaa/dir/desc
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I think we can all agree that Points Added Above Average QB is not taken to account by MVP voters. You could ask them about that stat and they wouldn't have any idea what it is. They care about QBR, QB Rating, Completion percentage, avg completion bla bla bla. Although that stat is fascinating and I hope they can make a WAR for all positions in football that is accurate, like the WAR stat in baseball.
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Sure looked good last night!!!
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I’m sure they don’t look at it, but it is evidence that Mahomes is not exactly chopped liver. His QBR this year is higher than when he won MVP in 2018, and significantly higher than Brady’s 2017 MVP season.
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NO ONE thinks he is less than a top tier QB. No one.
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