Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.
We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.
Thanks!
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Spoiler!
Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.
California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.
“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”
The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.
The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”
Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.
The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.
The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.
A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.
Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.
“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”
It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.
“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”
On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.
“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”
According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.
More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.
But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.
“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”
CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.
Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.
“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”
Originally Posted by Donger:
The Florida Department of Health is reporting at least 8,942 new cases of Covid-19, bringing the state total to 122,960, according to data released by the state on Friday.
Friday's data is the highest single day reporting of coronavirus cases since the start of the pandemic.
Yesterday, Florida reported 5,004 new cases of coronavirus.
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Do you think bars contributed to the spike more or protests? And if you think bar did why didn't Texas spike after May 1st? Do you think the timing of the spike is crazy that its about 2 weeks after the protests started?
Also
Considering its primarily young people getting it, and the mortality rate being closer to that of the flu for that demographic is there anything to worry about?
Like I said, I have no doubt that the protests have contributed to new cases, just like every other activity where humans gather in close proximity.
Yes, it seems that the prime demographic of new cases are the relatively young. Unfortunately, they can and will/have spread it to others. [Reply]
The biggest hope that we should all have is that the protests had minimal impact on cases despite massive non adherence to social distancing and mask usage spotted. It is widely known outdoor vs. indoor is huge. This seems to further underscore this fact.
What strong evidence do we have that large gatherings of people (even without masks) outside leads to large outbreaks? Even if some early evidence suggested this might be the case, would not these protests lead us to reexamine what we assume, but may not know to be true? Do public health officials have the courage to move from their current position if evidence seems to strongly point that outdoor gatherings are not as big as a factor as originally believe? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Donger:
Like I said, I have no doubt that the protests have contributed to new cases, just like every other activity where humans gather in close proximity.
Yes, it seems that the prime demographic of new cases are the relatively young. Unfortunately, they can and will/have spread it to others.
I don't see what one's feelings about how the original group acquired the virus has to do with how we should react to it now. Histrionics about protests from a month ago have nothing to do with the fact that it's spreading today at bars and large parties. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
OMG THEY ARE BAR HOPING IN FLORIDA NOW!
You have the reasoning skills of a 6th grade girl.
There’s multiple issues at play here. The gatherings in multiple settings are the cause of spikes. While mask wearing helps, it doesn’t help in crowded protests, bars or restaurants. [Reply]
The Florida Department of Health reported 8,942 new coronavirus cases, shattering the previous daily high for positive COVID-19 infections made just two days earlier.
The state also is shutting down on-site alcohol consumption at bars, according to Florida Department of Business & Professional Regulation Secretary Halsey Beshears. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Do you think bars contributed to the spike more or protests?
Seriously, who gives a flying fk what caused it? That is just bringing politics into something that should not be, and should never have been, political.
Were people stupid for protesting in huge numbers? Yes. Were people stupid for going to bars and every other place like nothing was wrong? Yes. Is it stupid for people to proudly boast that they will absolutely not wear a mask because this is 'merica? Yes.
JFC stop pointing fingers and put on a mask. Its insane. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
Do you think bars contributed to the spike more or protests? And if you think bar did why didn't Texas spike after May 1st? Do you think the timing of the spike is crazy that its about 2 weeks after the protests started?
Also
Considering its primarily young people getting it, and the mortality rate being closer to that of the flu for that demographic is there anything to worry about?
Weren't bars opened way later and at very limited capacity? I am sure protests are a big factor. But bars and clubs are a big part of that too. If protests were the only factor then all states would see this kind of spike. California aside it isn't a coincidence that spikes are happening in states where reopening guidelines were way looser.
Cases may have plenty of asymptomatic and we're getting better at controlling mortality. But the concerning trend is hospitalizations. [Reply]
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501: Weren't bars opened way later and at very limited capacity? I am sure protests are a big factor. But bars and clubs are a big part of that too. If protests were the only factor then all states would see this kind of spike. California aside it isn't a coincidence that spikes are happening in states where reopening guidelines were way looser.
Cases may have plenty of asymptomatic and we're getting better at controlling mortality. But the concerning trend is hospitalizations.
1. Bars could reopen on May 2nd in Texas yes with limited capacity.
2. People are arguing the protest had very little to do with the spike (lol)
3. Hospitalization trends can and are being skewed because they are testing people at hospitals now no matter the reason they are coming in. So while its smart to do so, if I go to hospital because I was in car wreck and I happen to have coronavirus its not the same as people being admitted BECAUSE of coronavirus. [Reply]
