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petegz28 10:12 PM 10-19-2017
That is all.
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Mecca 10:57 AM 12-28-2018
Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501:
I'm good with keeping stars at a fair price. The problem with Houston is that he's overpaid. Not that he's unvaluable. We kept dj and Hali and Charles even when we knew they weren't valuable anymore. Not even the same thing. But before that, was more than happy with keeping dj and Hali beyond their first contract. We got lots of great years out of them.
How valuable is he? He isn't young any more, the defense is god awful with him out there...
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KCUnited 04:50 PM 12-28-2018

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kccrow 05:28 PM 12-28-2018
Originally Posted by Coogs:
Interesting.

I still might lean towards releasing Houston and saving 14 million towards the cap, and Berry post June 1st and saving 9.5 million towards the cap. That gives us roughy 66-67 million, when added to the 43 million we should have according to over the cap, to resign/shore up key positions in '19.
Yep. Trade Houston for whatever you can get. Cut Sorensen outright. OTC says about 38.6 in space, so that gets you to about 55.3 after those moves. Sign your draft picks and reserve about 5 million for in-season moves, you're at around 47 million giver or take. You can get a few free agents for that.

You'd have to cut Berry with a June 1 designation, that's your space that you'd need under the 2019 cap to extend Hill and Jones and the most likely use of that money at that juncture.

By the way, that post I made earlier, I severely fucked up Berry's cap estimates... but you're spot on with 9.5 savings in 2019. He's 8.0 of dead space in 2020 with 5.5 savings under a June 1 cut designation.
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The Franchise 05:55 PM 12-28-2018
Originally Posted by kccrow:
Yep. Trade Houston for whatever you can get. Cut Sorensen outright. OTC says about 38.6 in space, so that gets you to about 55.3 after those moves. Sign your draft picks and reserve about 5 million for in-season moves, you're at around 47 million giver or take. You can get a few free agents for that.

You'd have to cut Berry with a June 1 designation, that's your space that you'd need under the 2019 cap to extend Hill and Jones and the most likely use of that money at that juncture.

By the way, that post I made earlier, I severely fucked up Berry's cap estimates... but you're spot on with 9.5 savings in 2019. He's 8.0 of dead space in 2020 with 5.5 savings under a June 1 cut designation.
I'm all for blowing it up this offseason on defense. This offense will pretty much come back intact next season and we should be able to add some depth there as well. It's not like this defense can get any fucking worse.
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RunKC 06:08 PM 12-28-2018
Andy doesn’t even have to fire his kid. His son has actually helped produce results on this defense.

Everyone else on staff can go though. Emmitt Thomas can “retire”.

This defense doesn’t even need that much talent added to it. Get a quality coach and everything changes. We constantly see guys like Erving, Reiter, D. Williams, etc doing well on offense, but we haven’t seen that on defense.

That’s coaching.
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TribalElder 06:11 PM 12-28-2018
Seems like the players do not give a fuck about playing for grandpa bob
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Bowser 06:23 PM 12-28-2018
There is legit talent on this defense, which makes it all the more frustrating watching them play OLE'! on defense every week.
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New World Order 06:29 PM 12-28-2018
Anyone else get the feeling Andy will promote his son to DC?
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Bowser 06:30 PM 12-28-2018
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Anyone else get the feeling Andy will promote his son to DC?
I'd take anyone's son over Granpa Bob right about now.
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The Franchise 06:37 PM 12-28-2018
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Anyone else get the feeling Andy will promote his son to DC?
So far the defensive line is the only positional group doing their jobs....sort of.
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FloridaMan88 06:38 PM 12-28-2018
Originally Posted by New World Order:
Anyone else get the feeling Andy will promote his son to DC?
Todd Bowles assuming the Jets fire him.
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GloryDayz 09:03 PM 12-28-2018
Originally Posted by KCUnited:
:-)
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suzzer99 09:09 PM 12-28-2018
Poor Kelce - dude is 10x as a productive as Watkins and makes half as much.

Also we can cut Houston with minimal cap hit next year right?
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suzzer99 09:10 PM 12-28-2018
Originally Posted by Bowser:
There is legit talent on this defense, which makes it all the more frustrating watching them play OLE'! on defense every week.

Chris Jones gets immediate pressure but the ball is still out too quick and it's a third down conversion. I'm not sure there's 3 seconds this season that better describe the Chiefs defense. pic.twitter.com/rz0m661x71

— Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) December 28, 2018


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ShowtimeSBMVP 05:31 PM 12-29-2018

And the news that has been clear for weeks: The #Jets are expected to fire coach Todd Bowles following the 2018 season. Story here https://t.co/GFgdqCLmx1

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) December 29, 2018

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