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Nzoner's Game Room>Official 2017-2018 NBA Playoffs thread!
Al Bundy 08:21 PM 04-13-2018

We'll see if the Warriors recover from the end of the season stretch of stinkers.
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staylor26 01:39 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
He didn’t run like a bitch? He deserted his team (because of gambling? I dunno)

Things that don’t agree with my opinion is irrelevant. Good to know
You’re missing the second part of that. “He didn’t run like a bitch because he lost

He clearly had to go away because of the gambling shit and didn’t really have a choice. I’m in no way talking about/defending MJ the man. Only the basketball player.

Funny how you choose to use the words “deserted” when Lebron’s done just that and I’m pretty sure that’s not how you would describe it for him. “Isn’t is all about the rings?”

It’s so obvious you have your biases too in this discussion, but you’re just a ****ing hypocrite.
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O.city 01:41 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You’re missing the second part of that. “He didn’t run like a bitch because he lost

He clearly had to go away because of the gambling shit and didn’t really have a choice. I’m in no way talking about/defending MJ the man. Only the basketball player.

Funny how you choose to use the words “deserted” when Lebron’s done just that and I’m pretty sure that’s not how you would describe it for him.
So you don’t like lebron the man and let those emotions dictate his on court stuff but not with Jordan?
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O.city 01:43 PM 05-06-2018
I don’t think Jordan had a choice. I think the league pushed him to it.

It’s just interesting that “who gives a fuck, it’s irrelevant” is said about one and “ran like a bitch” the other
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O.city 01:44 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
You’re missing the second part of that. “He didn’t run like a bitch because he lost

He clearly had to go away because of the gambling shit and didn’t really have a choice. I’m in no way talking about/defending MJ the man. Only the basketball player.

Funny how you choose to use the words “deserted” when Lebron’s done just that and I’m pretty sure that’s not how you would describe it for him. “Isn’t is all about the rings?”

It’s so obvious you have your biases too in this discussion, but you’re just a ****ing hypocrite.
And if it was just because they lost, wouldn’t lebron have left after the mass meltdown or after last season ?
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TomBarndtsTwin 01:46 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Lebron first finals were in what his 3rd season? At 21?
Jordan first Finals (which he won) was only his 5th season. Jordan didn’t get to start his NBA career at 18 years old, so not really sure how that’s relevant?
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O.city 01:46 PM 05-06-2018
Either way though, in my limited lifetime I’ve gotten to watch the 2 greatest basketball players of all time. Which is pretty cool.
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O.city 01:48 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Jordan first Finals (which he won) was only his 5th season. Jordan didn’t get to start his NBA career at 18 years old, so not really sure how that’s relevant?
I think your memory is off a bit. Iirc, it was 7th
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staylor26 01:50 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
So you don’t like lebron the man and let those emotions dictate his on court stuff but not with Jordan?
When I say that I’m talking about Lebron’s personality as a player, not his moral ****ing compass.

I couldn’t care less about these guys off the court. Their personalities and egos come with them onto the court though, and that does have an affect on your game.

Lebron is clearly more passive aggressive than MJ, hence the 4th Q disappearances in the Finals and awful body language (as a leader/teammate). He’s gone out like a bitch more than once. That effects how I view him in comparison to somebody like MJ.
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TomBarndtsTwin 01:51 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
I think your memory is off a bit. Iirc, it was 7th
Sorry, 6th season. Jordan missed almost the entire season his second year in the league, due to injury.


And further, perhaps if Lebron spent a couple years playing college ball and toughening up a little (like Jordan had to) before heading to the NBA, maybe he wouldn’t have gotten punked like a bitch his first two NBA Finals trips (2007 & 2011)? :-)
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O.city 01:53 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by staylor26:
When I say that I’m talking about Lebron’s personality as a player, not his moral ****ing compass.

I couldn’t care less about these guys off the court. Their personalities and egos come with them onto the court though, and that does have an affect on your game.

Lebron is clearly more passive aggressive than MJ, hence the F4th Q disappearances in the Finals and awful body language (as a leader/teammate).
Don’t think passive aggressive is what your looking for there but I get what your trying to say.
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staylor26 01:56 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Don’t think passive aggressive is what your looking for there but I get what your trying to say.
Maybe not. I’m pretty stoned right now :-)
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O.city 01:56 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Sorry, 6th season. Jordan missed almost the entire season his second year in the league, due to injury.
He came back for the playoffs in the injury year and they got swept

Obviously Jordan’s later years are what they are now but looking back at the early years, they weren’t very successful in the playoffs
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O.city 01:57 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Sorry, 6th season. Jordan missed almost the entire season his second year in the league, due to injury.


And further, perhaps if Lebron spent a couple years playing college ball and toughening up a little (like Jordan had to) before heading to the NBA, maybe he wouldn’t have gotten punked like a bitch his first two NBA Finals trips (2007 & 2011)? :-)
Jordan’s first 3 years in the league he got swept in the first round of the playoffs

So maybe he needed to be tougher?
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lcarus 02:07 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Jordan’s first 3 years in the league he got swept in the first round of the playoffs

So maybe he needed to be tougher?
Back then they actually had other great teams in the east.
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TomBarndtsTwin 02:08 PM 05-06-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
Jordan’s first 3 years in the league he got swept in the first round of the playoffs

So maybe he needed to be tougher?
He had to and did. Learned a lot from playing the Celts and the Bad Boys. The kind of great teams in the East that Lebron never had to face to get to the Finals.

And then when he finally made it to NBA’s biggest stage, he shined the brightest.

If you wanna give Lebron a pass for getting swept by the Spurs in his first NBA Finals, fine. But in his SEVENTH season, with a ‘super’ team at his back, he got punked like a bitch by the ****ing Dallas Mavs of all teams!

Meanwhile, Jordan is his SEVENTH season, with a lesser team, was dominating the end of the Showtime Lakers run . . . . .
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