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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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petegz28 10:10 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
To the "why is California spiking" question, it seems that non-compliance with the rules is not limited to the South.

80 Percent Of LA County Restaurants And Bars Are Not Following Coronavirus Guidelines
https://laist.com/latest/post/202006...rus-guidelines
Hang on just a sec...the bars opened like 8 days ago. Now up until this point all we heard was 2 weeks and such. No suddenly it must be hours because CA has been surging for a while now.

Sorry, I am not saying the bars don't have anything to do with it but I mean at any other point before this had you said x cause the surge when x took place less that 8 days ago everyone in their brother would have rushed to say it's too early to say it was that so it must have been something else. Now suddenly that is out the window???
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DaFace 10:34 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Hang on just a sec...the bars opened like 8 days ago. Now up until this point all we heard was 2 weeks and such. No suddenly it must be hours because CA has been surging for a while now.



Sorry, I am not saying the bars don't have anything to do with it but I mean at any other point before this had you said x cause the surge when x took place less that 8 days ago everyone in their brother would have rushed to say it's too early to say it was that so it must have been something else. Now suddenly that is out the window???
The article is about restaurants...
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petegz28 10:38 PM 06-27-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
The article is about restaurants...
Fair enough. I guess I scrolled up to the part about bars and didn't realize it.
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tk13 10:55 PM 06-27-2020
A bar in Michigan now has 85 cases tied to it.

Saturday update: 85 coronavirus cases linked to Harper's in East Lansing https://t.co/t2J6HntOhW

— Lansing State Journal (@LSJNews) June 27, 2020

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BWillie 12:13 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
Japan has an extremely high mask wearing rate.

:-)

And even though it is a densely populated place, they don't do hand shakes, hugs, etc. They even tend to stand farther apart when talking.

They never locked down, but the government quietly focused on hotspots.

Australia I don't know.
So does South Korea.
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BWillie 12:15 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
To the "why is California spiking" question, it seems that non-compliance with the rules is not limited to the South.

80 Percent Of LA County Restaurants And Bars Are Not Following Coronavirus Guidelines
https://laist.com/latest/post/202006...rus-guidelines
Well, I bet 100% of them are in Miami-Dade county. Because whats his face said so.
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Chitownchiefsfan 06:11 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Bugeater:
Ehhh....there's something more to this. Election year...divided nation...nothing seems to be off limits. I'll leave it at that. Call me a conspiritard...I don't ****ing care one goddamn bit. I'm not ****ing stupid.
Or.... And just hear me out here, maybe.... Just maybe the US was really bad in our response to this and the data is just reflecting that. But I'm sure youre probably right. A giant world wide conspiracy involving millions of people is probably the more likely reason.
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Marcellus 07:42 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Chitownchiefsfan:
Or.... And just hear me out here, maybe.... Just maybe the US was really bad in our response to this and the data is just reflecting that. But I'm sure youre probably right. A giant world wide conspiracy involving millions of people is probably the more likely reason.
He didn't say anything about a world wide conspiracy, but meanwhile NYC keeps justifying their nursing home policy while blaming the government for their death toll.
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O.city 08:00 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Pagan:
If you really lock down and isolate for four weeks you can bring even a large number of cases down.

Afterwards, if you test, test, test, contact trace, and actually isolate as needed you can keep a handle on it.

Many countries made provisions for isolating individuals. From getting them their own room at a previous hotel to having social workers who would bring them groceries and pharmaceuticals as needed. And they were given financial support.

The US did a big financial support but it didn't reach everyone. We had\have a lot of workers who should be isolating but don't feel they can afford to.

The politicalzation of the response didn't help.
I don’t remember which one but one of the big epidemiologist said this as well but also said eventually, that strategy breaks down. We saw it happen those places as well.

It’s just a damn hard thing
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O.city 08:02 AM 06-28-2020
New York politicians are now lecturing other states

That’s ironic
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Marcellus 08:03 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
New York politicians are now lecturing other states

That’s ironic
Its absolutely insane.
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eDave 08:04 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
New York politicians are now lecturing other states

That’s ironic
blantant political post. Ease it back man.
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Marcellus 08:05 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by eDave:
blantant political post. Ease it back man.
Pfffttttt.
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Donger 08:06 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
New York politicians are now lecturing other states

That’s ironic
Why is that ironic? They aren't seeing a surge. They've stomped this bug.
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O.city 08:07 AM 06-28-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Why is that ironic? They aren't seeing a surge.
After the response and issues in New York, I think I’d probably lay low for a while if I were them
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