A buddy of mine who isn’t a Chiefs fan was saying to me the other day how now Pat would have to win 8 rings to be the GOAT, and I’m just like... why?
Why the fuck do we only consider the rings? If that’s the case, Bill Russell is the greatest basketball player of all time by far with his 11 titles.
And if any sport should diminish the importance of them above others, it’s football. Where no one player is on the field more than half the time. You are so dependent on those around you - players and coaches both. Injuries derail seasons much more frequently too.
If Mahomes finishes his career out like we hope he will and should, he’s very likely going to break every passing record to exist. He will hopefully win at least another 2 titles, and of course we hope more.
If Brady ends up with more SBs than him or anyone else, all that means is he won more chips. Had more consistently great teams and coaches around him. Was the luckiest player to ever put on a pair of cleats. That’s it.
I mean, if we are being real, our own eyes can already tell us Mahomes is probably a better quarterback than Brady ever was. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
A buddy of mine who isn’t a Chiefs fan was saying to me the other day how now Pat would have to win 8 rings to be the GOAT, and I’m just like... why?
Why the **** do we only consider the rings? If that’s the case, Bill Russell is the greatest basketball player of all time by far with his 11 titles.
And if any sport should diminish the importance of them above others, it’s football. Where no one player is on the field more than half the time. You are so dependent on those around you - players and coaches both. Injuries derail seasons much more frequently too.
If Mahomes finishes his career out like we hope he will and should, he’s very likely going to break every passing record to exist. He will hopefully win at least another 2 titles, and of course we hope more.
If Brady ends up with more SBs than him or anyone else, all that means is he won more chips. Had more consistently great teams and coaches around him. Was the luckiest player to ever put on a pair of cleats. That’s it.
I mean, if we are being real, our own eyes can already tell us Mahomes is probably a better quarterback than Brady ever was.
Mahomes right now is a MUCH better quarterback than Brady has ever been.
Just watch the tape side by side. It's not even remotely close. [Reply]
Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19:
A buddy of mine who isn’t a Chiefs fan was saying to me the other day how now Pat would have to win 8 rings to be the GOAT, and I’m just like... why?
Why the **** do we only consider the rings? If that’s the case, Bill Russell is the greatest basketball player of all time by far with his 11 titles.
And if any sport should diminish the importance of them above others, it’s football. Where no one player is on the field more than half the time. You are so dependent on those around you - players and coaches both. Injuries derail seasons much more frequently too.
If Mahomes finishes his career out like we hope he will and should, he’s very likely going to break every passing record to exist. He will hopefully win at least another 2 titles, and of course we hope more.
If Brady ends up with more SBs than him or anyone else, all that means is he won more chips. Had more consistently great teams and coaches around him. Was the luckiest player to ever put on a pair of cleats. That’s it.
I mean, if we are being real, our own eyes can already tell us Mahomes is probably a better quarterback than Brady ever was.
Whether you like it or not, a ton of people determine the GOAT to be the one who has won the most championships.
I agree that the number of championships won should only be part of the assessment but that's not how many people view things.
Shannon and Skip were saying recently that Mahomes, as per the eye test, is better than Brady has ever been.
It doesn't change the fact that when it's all said and done, Brady will likely be considered the GOAT by most people because I don't see Mahomes winning 7 rings. It is just extremely hard to win championships. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buckweath:
Whether you like it or not, a ton of people determine the GOAT to be the one who has won the most championships.
I agree that the number of championships won should only be part of the assessment but that's not how many people view things.
Shannon and Skip were saying recently that Mahomes, as per the eye test, is better than Brady has ever been.
It doesn't change the fact that when it's all said and done, Brady will likely be considered the GOAT by most people because I don't see Mahomes winning 7 rings. It is just extremely hard to win championships.
Especially hard when the officiating is so one sided. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buckweath:
Whether you like it or not, a ton of people determine the GOAT to be the one who has won the most championships.
I agree that the number of championships won should only be part of the assessment but that's not how many people view things.
Shannon and Skip were saying recently that Mahomes, as per the eye test, is better than Brady has ever been.
It doesn't change the fact that when it's all said and done, Brady will likely be considered the GOAT by most people because I don't see Mahomes winning 7 rings. It is just extremely hard to win championships.
Can’t disagree with anything you said.
Just think it’s time for anyone who only considers rings to open up their mind. Otherwise Bill Russell is their basketball GOAT. That would be the rules. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Buckweath:
Whether you like it or not, a ton of people determine the GOAT to be the one who has won the most championships.
I agree that the number of championships won should only be part of the assessment but that's not how many people view things.
Shannon and Skip were saying recently that Mahomes, as per the eye test, is better than Brady has ever been.
It doesn't change the fact that when it's all said and done, Brady will likely be considered the GOAT by most people because I don't see Mahomes winning 7 rings. It is just extremely hard to win championships.
Why is Jordan the GOAT in basketball then? That was his biggest point. [Reply]