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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Trump says he wanted to take out Syria's Assad but Mattis opposed it
Eleazar 09:31 AM 09-16-2020
Trump says he wanted to take out Syria's Assad but Mattis opposed it

By Brett Samuels - 09/15/20 09:11 AM EDT





President Trump on Tuesday confirmed a plan was in the works to take out Syrian President Bashar Assad in 2017 and that he was supportive of it, but that former Defense Secretary James Mattis was opposed.

The president's disclosure that an assassination operation was discussed came as part of a lengthy diatribe against Mattis, but it confirmed a piece of reporting from 2018 that Trump disputed at the time.


“I would've rather taken him out. I had him all set. Mattis didn’t want to do it. Mattis was a highly overrated general," Trump said on "Fox & Friends."

The president added that he did not regret the decision not to target Assad, saying he "could've lived either way." The Syrian leader has overseen the deaths of scores of civilians amid a years-long civil war that has ravaged the country.

Journalist Bob Woodward reported in his 2018 book, "Fear," that Trump urged Mattis that the U.S. should “f------ kill” Assad following an April 2017 chemical attack on civilians in Syria.

Mattis reportedly went along with the president’s demands during the phone call, but immediately told aides after hanging up that they would take a “much more measured” approach.

Trump was asked about the reporting at the time and said the assassination of Assad was "never even discussed."

"No, that was never even contemplated, nor would it be contemplated and it should not have been written about in the book," Trump said in September 2018.


Trump on Tuesday criticized Mattis at length. Mattis resigned at the end of 2018 after Trump abruptly announced he was pulling all U.S. troops out of Syria, a decision he later reversed.

"To me, he was a terrible general. He was a bad leader, and he wasn't doing the job with ISIS," Trump said. "He was not doing the job in Syria or Iraq with respect to ISIS."

Fox News host Brian Kilmeade interjected to praise Mattis as a great American who served his country.

"I don't say he is a good American or a bad American," Trump replied. "I just say he didn't do a good job."



https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...tis-opposed-it
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Donger 03:56 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by NinerDoug:
The problem here, is that you are talking about apples and oranges.

The subject under discussion is "assassinations of heads of state."

I'm going to guess that the cops who arrested Ted Bundy knew that a trial in Florida for the crimes of which he was accused was almost certain to result in Bundy landing in the electric chair.

The fact that Saddam was fairly certain to be convicted and executed for crimes that he did in fact commit does not transform a trial and execution into a political assassination.

(BTW, have you ever noticed that, as your position becomes less tenable, your anger level rises?)
You're dealing with a person who thinks that Trump didn't withhold funds from Ukraine, even when presented with Trump admitting that he did, because Trump eventually released them...

:-)

I don't know if his condition is limited to news that he doesn't like, or if it's a general thing. But it's a real hoot to watch and destroy.
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vailpass 03:57 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Can I imagine what?
The implications that would ripple out from the US taking out another country's leader unilaterally?
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Donger 03:58 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by vailpass:
The implications that would ripple out from the US taking out another country's leader unilaterally?
I can, yes. But I'm glad that it's still imagination, and didn't come to fruition.
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NinerDoug 04:01 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
You're dealing with a person who thinks that Trump didn't withhold funds from Ukraine, even when presented with Trump admitting that he did, because Trump eventually released them...

:-)

I don't know if his condition is limited to news that he doesn't like, or if it's a general thing. But it's a real hoot to watch and destroy.
He's an angry dude.

Well, I suppose the internet is probably the best place for him to blow off some steam.

I wonder what he's so pissed off about all the time, though. Trying to think of angrier poster, and I'm having trouble coming up with one.
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vailpass 04:02 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I can, yes. But I'm glad that it's still imagination, and didn't come to fruition.
Taking out Iran's #1 henchman was a bold move. But not too bold, just right. Taking out Assad unilaterally would not have been prudent.
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Eleazar 04:29 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
We invaded a foreign country and captured their leader and handed him over to friendly officials who were patently on the other side of his political party, the one that he had been rather harsh on while ruling. I wonder what we thought would happen? :-)

I fully understand we didn't "assassinate" Saddam but to say we aren't solely responsible for his death is just insane bullshit. We forcefully overthrew the government of another country resulting in the death of the President. It is what it is no matter how you want to Donger it. And as I stated I wasn't against it.

You and Donger can go back to jerking each other of semantically. Carry on.
Turning a fugitive over to another country's civil authorities is morally equivalent to assassinating a head of state, in your view. Got it.
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Pogue 05:00 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Eleazar:
Turning a fugitive over to another country's civil authorities is morally equivalent to assassinating a head of state, in your view. Got it.
How did we get involved in the first place? It’s laughable how you guys always ignore that.
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seamonster 06:06 PM 09-16-2020
Yes...we did

Originally Posted by Donger:
We didn't assassinate Gaddafi either.

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mlyonsd 06:21 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
Seems it would have been fine with Trump, I guess.
It evidently was ok with Britain and France as well.

You and cochise are laughable clowns defending a leader that gassed his own people.
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Donger 06:46 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by seamonster:
Yes...we did
No, we didn't.
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Donger 06:47 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
It evidently was ok with Britain and France as well.

You and cochise are laughable clowns defending a leader that gassed his own people.
I'm defending Assad? How?
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mlyonsd 07:08 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
I'm defending Assad? How?
Ok I went too far. I retract it. I'll assume you're just like the rest of us that think Assad should be dead already.
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Eleazar 07:13 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by Pogue:
How did we get involved in the first place? It’s laughable how you guys always ignore that.
I'm guessing you're not going to refer to his plot to assassinate President Bush?
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vailpass 07:26 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
Ok I went too far. I retract it. I'll assume you're just like the rest of us that think Assad should be dead already.
He should definitely be dead. If we’re going to participate we need to do it the old fashioned way. CIA in the shadows empowering the local resistance to gank him.
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Donger 07:47 PM 09-16-2020
Originally Posted by mlyonsd:
Ok I went too far. I retract it. I'll assume you're just like the rest of us that think Assad should be dead already.
Wouldn’t bother me in the least. Preferably with complete deniability.
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