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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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loochy 11:01 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
So why did Colorado have the 14th most new cases yesterday of you guys have already been doing all these things and didn't "open up" so to speak? Serious question.

Because that "lockdown", along with all others in the U.S. so far, are half assed. Half assed solutions lead to quarter assed results. The only way to really stop this is full lockdown (like Wuhan did), but we would never do that...so here we are.
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O.city 11:04 AM 11-12-2020
Lockdowns are a short term cure. They’re about delaying the thing until you have vaccines or therapeutics

They aren’t long term stop this thing solutions.
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dirk digler 11:07 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by saphojunkie:
That's ****ed up. I wonder if you'll see rural areas using a different vaccine, or people going to the city to get vaccinated.
They will probably have to go to a city or wait for the Johnson and Johnson vaccine
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loochy 11:07 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Lockdowns are a short term cure. They’re about delaying the thing until you have vaccines or therapeutics

They aren’t long term stop this thing solutions.

I think a 1 year + closed local borders would fix things.


Not feasible - just saying.
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dirk digler 11:09 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:
Because that "lockdown", along with all others in the U.S. so far, are half assed. Half assed solutions lead to quarter assed results. The only way to really stop this is full lockdown (like Wuhan did), but we would never do that...so here we are.
yup
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O.city 11:10 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by loochy:
I think a 1 year + closed local borders would fix things.


Not feasible - just saying.
We’re too globally connected

Yeah that would do it, look at New Zealand. Still having pop up stuff.

It’s a highly infectious respiratory virus. It’s not being defeatist to realize that it’s gonna spread and there’s minimum things we can do
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petegz28 11:12 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
Lockdowns are a short term cure. They’re about delaying the thing until you have vaccines or therapeutics

They aren’t long term stop this thing solutions.
Exactly. And we had to lock downs earlier to flatten the curve. A lot of people including some on here think that means get rid of the virus and it doesn't. It means spreading out the same amount of infection over a longer period of time so hospitals don't get slammed. Hopefully you run into a vaccine or treatment while doing so but that was gravy and never the intention.
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BigRedChief 11:14 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
It’s a highly infectious respiratory virus. It’s not being defeatist to realize that it’s gonna spread and there’s minimum things we can do
the USA government could do more. The states, cities could do more. It’s not going to be a fix but it could lessen the suffering and deaths.
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Pasta Little Brioni 11:21 AM 11-12-2020
There are more like 100 million true "cases" not 10
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loochy 11:29 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Exactly. And we had to lock downs earlier to flatten the curve. A lot of people including some on here think that means get rid of the virus and it doesn't. It means spreading out the same amount of infection over a longer period of time so hospitals don't get slammed. Hopefully you run into a vaccine or treatment while doing so but that was gravy and never the intention.

wasn't a lockdown, it was a "we suggest you stay in but we really aren't ready to enforce anything"-down
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O.city 11:35 AM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by petegz28:
Exactly. And we had to lock downs earlier to flatten the curve. A lot of people including some on here think that means get rid of the virus and it doesn't. It means spreading out the same amount of infection over a longer period of time so hospitals don't get slammed. Hopefully you run into a vaccine or treatment while doing so but that was gravy and never the intention.
As we’ve seen, the longer you can string it along medically the better treatment we will develop. Death rate being an example
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TLO 12:15 PM 11-12-2020
Michael Osterholm.. son of a bitch
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htismaqe 12:21 PM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by BigRedChief:
the USA government could do more. The states, cities could do more. It’s not going to be a fix but it could lessen the suffering and deaths.
The American people have to do more. Mask mandates sound great in theory but they're simply aren't enforceable on a large scale.

It's much like speed limits. Nobody on the interstate drives at the speed limit because the chances of getting caught are so miniscule.

We don't have the ability to enforce large scale mandates. It's up to the American people to comply willingly.
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Chief Roundup 12:23 PM 11-12-2020
What would you all do in this following scenario?
At work we are required to notify our employer if we intend to or do actually leave the country and intend on spending a night or if we are attending a mass gatherings.

If you knew a few people were going to be leaving the county to spend several days with their families in other states and do not intend on divulging their intentions for fear that they would be quarantined or isolated for up to 14 days upon their return?
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loochy 12:28 PM 11-12-2020
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup:
What would you all do in this following scenario?
At work we are required to notify our employer if we intend to or do actually leave the country and intend on spending a night or if we are attending a mass gatherings.

If you knew a few people were going to be leaving the county to spend several days with their families in other states and do not intend on divulging their intentions for fear that they would be quarantined or isolated for up to 14 days upon their return?

That depends. Is the 14 day quarantine paid? Can you work from home?
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