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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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TLO 10:56 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud:
My family hasn't eaten out since February but then, we rarely eat fast food each year.

I had a total of three cheeseburgers in 2019.
Do you keep track of other foods you eat?

Slices of pizza?
Hot dogs?
Popsicles?
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FloridaMan88 10:57 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
No, it's not wrong. If you aren't infected, you don't get sick. You don't go to the hospital. And you don't die. That was the primary goal of mitigation. To minimize the number of cases. Everything flows from that.

It was never JUST about flattening the curve, or JUST overrunning hospitals. That was just part of it.

I don't know what source you're referring to.

Important to remember that #Covid-19 epidemic control measures may only delay cases, not prevent. However, this helps limit surge and gives hospitals time to prepare and manage. It's the difference between finding an ICU bed & ventilator or being treated in the parking lot tent. pic.twitter.com/VOyfBcLMus

— Drew A. Harris, DPM, MPH (@drewaharris) February 28, 2020

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SAUTO 10:58 AM 05-05-2020
[QUOTE=BleedingRed;14954079]You're 100% wrong, the same amount of people would be infected regardless of efforts put in place. Experts have said this over and over and over again.[/QUOTE


link? because that makes no sense at all.
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Donger 10:59 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by dirk digler:
Here is what Dr Fauci has repeatedly said about flattening the curve
Pfffft. Like he's an expert.
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petegz28 11:00 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
And that is what we were told. The death reduction was a product of hospitals not being overrun.
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Donger 11:00 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Did you post that for some specific reason?
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ghak99 11:01 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
So you're of the opinion that we would have ended up with the same number of cases without mitigation and we'd have with.
That's not what I said, but it was a decent attempt at dongering.

Mitigation was only to slow the process while allowing for a hope and a prayer. A vaccine or it's own demise is the hope and a prayer. Without either, it will become another bug that gets passed around the globe for a very long time. Even with a vaccine, it very well could remain the same nagging pain in the ass forever. People can't hide from that. We don't even know how many cases we have now so even arguing about an actual number is pointless.

Deaths are all that ever mattered. I do believe mitigation kept NYC from picking and choosing who got treatment and who got the toe tag.
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mr. tegu 11:01 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Monticore:
So if the rehire, buy new stock and nobody shows up what happens?

Businesses still suffer and go out of business. See how easy this modeling is compared to coronavirus modeling? We are talking about the model and how it’s a little easier to predict outcomes on things like business losses than it is to predict coronavirus outcomes. Whether it’s the right thing or not, or if they will return isn’t really the question.
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SAUTO 11:02 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
the key word there is MAY.

and i wouldnt use anything from 2-28 as a point. so much has changed since then
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O.city 11:02 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
I still primarily focus on deaths. It's tough because it's a lagging indicator, but cases is just too dependent on testing rates to make a lot of sense of.
I've started following some of the model making types on twitter and they say the same. Something along the lines of how they're reported etc.
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O.city 11:03 AM 05-05-2020
So the New York cases and hospitalizations and such are going down very quickly. Why is it happening there? Are they just that much better at social distancing?
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Donger 11:04 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by ghak99:
That's not what I said, but it was a decent attempt at dongering.

Mitigation was only to slow the process while allowing for a hope and a prayer. A vaccine or it's own demise is the hope and a prayer. Without either, it will become another bug that gets passed around the globe for a very long time. Even with a vaccine, it very well could remain the same nagging pain in the ass forever. People can't hide from that. We don't even know how many cases we have now so even arguing about an actual number is pointless.

Deaths are all that ever mattered. I do believe mitigation kept NYC from picking and choosing who got treatment and who got the toe tag.
You said, "Getting infected is unavoidable." That means you think everyone will get it.

Of course you can hide from it.
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SAUTO 11:05 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
I've started following some of the model making types on twitter and they say the same. Something along the lines of how they're reported etc.
they say it could take up to 14 days for a death to be recorded
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TLO 11:06 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by O.city:
So the New York cases and hospitalizations and such are going down very quickly. Why is it happening there? Are they just that much better at social distancing?
Maybe the virus has mutated.
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BleedingRed 11:08 AM 05-05-2020
Originally Posted by Donger:
You said, "Getting infected is unavoidable." That means you think everyone will get it.

Of course you can hide from it.
Sure enjoy staying indoors for years. Lmao
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