The same morons that think that Kizer doesn't come off as "genuine".
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Won't listen to coaching?
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That certainly fits with the rumors about him.

immature, not really liked by teammates
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I kinda liked Mahomes. He was likable even though he was cocky as fuck.


Kaaya was surprisingly smooth
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I was drunk, it was late.

My thought process is that he likes to play "hero ball," which is great if you are also being smart and not forcing shit in bad situations. Surely he's been coached situational football, and surely he's been coached on why he shouldn't make stupid lobs off of his back foot.

And maybe it's just because he's a cocky little SOB. That's not to say Reid wouldn't humble him and make him reign it in, like he's been able to do with Kelce, but it's definitely something Dorsey and Reid should be on top of in their evals.
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Why would you want to humble that? Does it not work when Rodger's or Big Ben does it? I love the cockiness and the fact that he knows he can make every throw. He only needs to make better decisions on occasions and he knows that.
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Good stuff here.....check out who the guest is:


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Trubisky doesn't come off as dumb.
Watson completed his communications degree in 3 years so he is definitely not dumb.
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Thanks
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ESPN radio mentioned that scouts think Kizer is Similar to EJ Manuel?

Damn. I'm thinking someone is trying to get this kid to fall to them. I think all this stuff about Kizer would be far more believable if it came out last month after the combine.
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Gruden "why don't you square yourself? Why don't you get in a better throwing position? Why, you don't have to?"

Mahomes "Coaches say something all the time ... you need to get more downhill. But if you can make a throw, I just make it"


Sounds to me like coaches have tried to get him to clean up his mechanics and he just doesn't want to.

He might not change until he starts failing. Won't know how he will react after that happens.
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Yes, thanks. That was the quote that turned me off.
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How do you know he knows that? Id want to humble his cockiness because throwing into triple coverage and getting picked doesn't do anyone any good at the end of a game. He needs to know when to throw to the flat, get the first down and put the team in a better position to win. (Talking about the game he and gruden discuss.)

Ben and Rodgers make smart decisions when it counts. Rodgers specifically. They've earned the right to let their nuts hang.
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Great one generally start out cocky

You just don't know what is going to happen when they have to reign it in.

Will they be able to play under control but still be "cocky"?

Some can, many can't

That's why Mahomes isn't going top-10, at least we don't think he is.
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LOL i am not sure how you got "He jsut doesnt want to be coached" out of that
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