Watson goes to the Jets. Tribusky to the Browns. Kizer to the Texans.
This is what Terez says about #27:
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27. Kansas City Chiefs
QB Patrick Mahomes II, Texas Tech
The pressure is on Alex Smith to deliver, and while he is indeed their quarterback for 2017, the cap-tight Chiefs could save $17 million by releasing him next year. They could also create some cap room by extending him, but the point is, his future will likely be determined by how he fares this season.
That said, someone like Mahomes — who ESPN draft analyst Todd McShay recently called a cross between Brett Favre and Johnny Manziel — could be tempting to the Chiefs, who have done plenty of background work on him. He’s a gunslinger with a cannon for an arm and plus intangibles, but he’s very raw and will likely need at least a year to get accustomed to the lengthy verbiage in coach Andy Reid’s playbook. Mahomes has never had to call lengthy plays with regularity, and that’s something all quarterbacks have to do in Kansas City. The good news is that Reid is very good at scheming up concepts for his quarterbacks, so they often make predetermined reads, and with Mahomes’ arm and willingness to chuck it deep, he could potentially open up the playbook in a way Chiefs fans haven’t seen consistently.
By the way, one other bonus to selecting a quarterback early — he’ll be very cheap for the next five years. For a team that has been tight against the cap for the last several years, that would be a boon.
Of course, other teams watch tape, too, and there’s a chance none of the top four quarterbacks — Mahomes, Kizer, Trubisky and Watson — will be here, especially if Arizona takes a quarterback at No. 13. And if the top four quarterbacks are off the board, the Chiefs might be best served trading down or taking the best player available and perhaps addressing quarterback in one of the next two rounds with the likes of Pittsburgh’s Nathan Peterman, Cal’s Davis Webb, Tennessee’s Josh Dobbs or Miami’s Brad Kaaya.
But let’s say they keep the pick. Possible options include a defensive tackle like Florida’s Caleb Brantley or a cornerback like Washington’s Kevin King, Florida’s Quincy Wilson and Southern California’s Adoree’ Jackson (the Chiefs met with the latter two at the combine, by the way).
I also gave some serious thought here to Stanford’s Christian McCaffrey, because the Chiefs could use a dynamic home-run hitting back after the release of Jamaal Charles. McCaffrey was one of the combine’s top testers at his position and offers unique versatility as a runner and receiver. Still, I just can’t pick him to the Chiefs in the first, because — fun tidbit — Reid and Dorsey have never selected a running back in the first round. Not once, even dating back to the Green Bay and Philadelphia days. So if they did take him this high, they’d be bucking their trend.
Who would you take? Who would you take if no QB was on the board? [Reply]
Originally Posted by milkman:
Why do people act like Reid is some old fart that lacks patience?
He's 58 years old, with plenty of time to develop a QB.
There's nothing in his past that would indicate this but I would play DA and say he's been a head coach for 18 years in a row and over 30 in coaching. How much longer before he gets burnt out? He's coming up on year 5 coaches rarely win a title with a team after being there longer than 6 seasons. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Yeah because the chiefs and Packers are totally in the same position. Alex Smith and favre are totally the same and the Packers totally planned having favre flake on retiring for 3 years and Rodgers having to sit on the bench for that long.
Good comparison bro. Posted via Mobile Device
Favre had given no indication at all that he wanted to retire when Rodgers was drafted. The Packers are the ones who let him stick around as long as he did.
Oh and by the way, when the Packers finally gave Rodgers the keys to the car, guess what? They CONTINUED to invest at the QB position by drafting Brian Brohm in the 2nd (and Matt Flynn in the 7th for what it's worth)
The Chiefs have NEVER prepared for life after their veteran starter. Best we got was 3rd round Brodie Croyle. Whoop dee damn doo. [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Favre had given no indication at all that he wanted to retire when Rodgers was drafted. The Packers are the ones who let him stick around as long as he did.
Oh and by the way, when the Packers finally gave Rodgers the keys to the car, guess what? They CONTINUED to invest at the QB position by drafting Brian Brohm in the 2nd (and Matt Flynn in the 7th for what it's worth)
The Chiefs have NEVER prepared for life after their veteran starter. Best we got was 3rd round Brodie Croyle. Whoop dee damn doo.
Originally Posted by TRR:
Analysts are down on this QB class because there isn't a player in the draft that is ready to start day one. Analysts want instant gratification in which to prove they were right or wrong about a prospect. KC is in a different place. Whether they were to pick Trubisky, Kizer, Watson or Mahomes; none of them will play in 2017. May not even play in 2018...that's what makes this QB draft class interesting (I may even say adventagious) for the Chiefs, and very bad for others.
This is worth quoting and rereading.
Top qb draft prospects are not available @27, they are long gone in the top half of the 1st.
Talented QBs who have some Qs can last a couple rounds longer, but the true needy teams cant wait for that. We can. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
Which QBs in the modern era have sat for 2 or more years developing and actually became great? If a QB NEEDS 2+ years of developing before he can even hit the field then I doubt he's that good of a prospect to begin with. Posted via Mobile Device
I wonder how many QB's flaked out because they weren't given a chance to develop? [Reply]
Originally Posted by RealSNR:
Favre had given no indication at all that he wanted to retire when Rodgers was drafted. The Packers are the ones who let him stick around as long as he did.
Oh and by the way, when the Packers finally gave Rodgers the keys to the car, guess what? They CONTINUED to invest at the QB position by drafting Brian Brohm in the 2nd (and Matt Flynn in the 7th for what it's worth)
The Chiefs have NEVER prepared for life after their veteran starter. Best we got was 3rd round Brodie Croyle. Whoop dee damn doo.
That was around the time Brett was wavering on retiring. That's why the next season he had to come out and tell the FO that he wasn't retiring and every season after that. Aaron Rodgers was not drafted to be a developmental project unlike Mahomes would be if we drafted him. They didn't draft him thinking they would need him to sit on the bench for 3 years before he was ready. Favre was the reason he was on the bench for that long. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
Thompson/Packers draft QB's every year because thats how he was raised under Ron Wolf. Dorsey has done the same in KC so far. Chiefs will draft a QB this year. No waiting until 2018....when they will draft yet another. [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
That was around the time Brett was wavering on retiring. That's why the next season he had to come out and tell the FO that he wasn't retiring and every season after that. Aaron Rodgers was not drafted to be a developmental project unlike Mahomes would be if we drafted him. They didn't draft him thinking they would need him to sit on the bench for 3 years before he was ready. Favre was the reason he was on the bench for that long. Posted via Mobile Device
Why did all the teams pass on Rodgers when some thought he could go #1 overall? [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bewbies:
Why did all the teams pass on Rodgers when some thought he could go #1 overall?
They all thought he was too much of a Tedford system QB. Lot's of scouts then talking about no QB's worthy of 1st round cuz systems and flaws. Sound like this year? [Reply]
Originally Posted by -King-:
That was around the time Brett was wavering on retiring. That's why the next season he had to come out and tell the FO that he wasn't retiring and every season after that. Aaron Rodgers was not drafted to be a developmental project unlike Mahomes would be if we drafted him. They didn't draft him thinking they would need him to sit on the bench for 3 years before he was ready. Favre was the reason he was on the bench for that long. Posted via Mobile Device
I think Tim Tebow is the kind of QB who would ACTUALLY need 3 years to totally rebuild and relearn how to play QB. As it was, he was given an offseason, and then said, "Fuck it! I'm gonna play my way! Teboooow tiiiiiiiimmee!!!"
None of these guys are as fucked up mechanically as Tim Tebow, nor are any of them as far behind in terms of learning offensive concepts of pro offense playbooks as he was. When you take a QB like Trubisky, yeah, you don't want to rush him, but it's not like he's this guy who's totally fucked up beyond repair. In fact, he's far from it. He needs good coaches and a good environment, and he'll be ready to attempt his starting career after just one season. There is perhaps no better team and no better place for him to be on than KC.
Originally Posted by SAGA45:
Thompson/Packers draft QB's every year because thats how he was raised under Ron Wolf. Dorsey has done the same in KC so far. Chiefs will draft a QB this year. No waiting until 2018....when they will draft yet another.
Yeah, they'll draft another loser in the 4th or 5th round. Fuck Dorsey. [Reply]
Well, he may be JaMarcus but 80 yards in air is impressive whoever is doing it. Not sure it means much but it would atleast make hail Mary's interesting [Reply]
Well, he may be JaMarcus but 80 yards in air is impressive whoever is doing it. Not sure it means much but it would atleast make hail Mary's interesting
Well, he may be JaMarcus but 80 yards in air is impressive whoever is doing it. Not sure it means much but it would atleast make hail Mary's interesting
Well, he may be JaMarcus but 80 yards in air is impressive whoever is doing it. Not sure it means much but it would atleast make hail Mary's interesting
That's fucking ridiculous. There's also a video of him throwing 65 yards off one knee. Posted via Mobile Device [Reply]
