Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
He had to and did. Learned a lot from playing the Celts and the Bad Boys.
And then when he finally made it to NBA’s biggest stage, he shined the brightest.
If you wanna give Lebron a pass for getting swept by the Spurs in his first NBA Finals, fine. But in his SEVENTH season, with a ‘super’ team at his back, he got punked like a bitch by the ****ing Dallas Mavs of all teams!
Meanwhile, Jordan is his SEVENTH season, with a lesser team, was dominating the end of the Showtime Lakers run . . . . .
The super team in Miami had wade who’s legit and bosh who was good.
I’m not sure how that’s so much more of a super team than Jordan had, but ok. Jordan didn’t win a champ until he was playing with another all star.
Lebron had a terrible series against the Mavericks, then came back and won what, 3 of 6 championships? I’d say he got tougher. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
The super team in Miami had wade who’s legit and bosh who was good.
I’m not sure how that’s so much more of a super team than Jordan had, but ok. Jordan didn’t win a champ until he was playing with another all star.
Lebron had a terrible series against the Mavericks, then came back and won what, 3 of 6 championships? I’d say he got tougher.
LOL, Jordan made that other All Star. He didn’t leave the Bulls to go join up with Barkley and Chris Mullin to form his own super trio. He toughened up and MADE his own ‘super’ team (if you wanna call it that).
And again, Jordan WON with his team. The Heat lost and were humiliated by the Mavs. Lebron sank on the biggest stage. That’s the difference. [Reply]
Originally Posted by O.city:
And without Jordan the bulls won 55 games in a conference with great teams. What does that say about the team Jordan had around him?
What happened to Cleveland when lebron left?
Jordan had a good team around him in the 90s. Better than the team Lebron had around him in Cleveland in 2009 when Orlando clobbered them. Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong had their best seasons that year before Jordan came back. The Bulls really lost a lot when they let Grant go to Orlando. That's one reason why they lost to the Magic that first year MJ was back. If you remember that series, MJ was on fire. Horace Grant was killing them. Then the next year they got Rodman and nobody could beat them. [Reply]
Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin:
Jordan first Finals (which he won) was only his 5th season. Jordan didn’t get to start his NBA career at 18 years old, so not really sure how that’s relevant?
Jordan was drafted in 1984 and his first finals was 1991
8th season. Even if he got hurt it's still his 8th season. The fact that Lebron holds up better than MJ shouldn't be used against Lebron [Reply]
Originally Posted by lcarus:
After losing 4 times, Jordan should have said **** Chicago and gone to South Beach to join up with Hakeem, Gary Payton, and Reggie Miller.
Lebron never had anybody like Pippin from 2003-2010
Lebron teamed up with two all stars, not three
Miami wasn't a contender in 2010. Bosh, Wade, and Lebron made them one. But they never even make the Finals without Lebron [Reply]
Jesus, how big was that AD mishandle? If he catches that Rondo pass cleanly, he dunks it, the crowd gets into it, and they're down 5. Instead, the Warriors go the other way for an easy 2, crowd dead, and boom! down 15. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Rudy tossed tigger's salad:
Jesus, how big was that AD mishandle? If he catches that Rondo pass cleanly, he dunks it, the crowd gets into it, and they're down 5. Instead, the Warriors go the other way for an easy 2, crowd dead, and boom! down 15.
It was huge....they came out and stunk for this 2nd half.... [Reply]
Since we're talking about the teams lebron/Jordan played against. Clearly one played and beat superior competition while the other coasted past weak competition on the way to getting beat in the finals...
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