This sucks bad. Let's ruin a KC success story- an almost entirely locally owned thriving entertainment district, rip it all out, and put in a stadium for a team that will lose more than it wins in perpetuity. Huge mistake. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
This sucks bad. Let's ruin a KC success story- an almost entirely locally owned thriving entertainment district, rip it all out, and put in a stadium for a team that will lose more than it wins in perpetuity. Huge mistake.
Yeah, I don't like the idea of replacing the organic local scene in the northern part of that district with cookie cutter corporate chain stuff which is what will happen if they drop stadium there. Like a P&L expansion. That area is fun to visit now. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
It's not like they tore down the original Gates BBQ to build the arena and P&L... what was there before, Temptations?
There was nothing there north of I-70 then. I had no problem with the arena, other than the tax abatements and corporate chain restaurants and bars that have nothing to do with KC dominating everything and funnelling all of the money out of the city. It stands as a huge missed opportunity.
This plan has all of the same actors, with the added goatfuck of destroying a KC success story to replace it with another round of tax abatements and corporate chain bullshit funnelling the money out of the city again.
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
There was nothing there north of I-70 then. I had no problem with the arena, other than the tax abatements and corporate chain restaurants and bars that have nothing to do with KC dominating everything and funnelling all of the money out of the city. It stands as a huge missed opportunity.
This plan has all of the same actors, with the added goatfuck of destroying a KC success story to replace it with another round of tax abatements and corporate chain bullshit funnelling the money out of the city again.
This isn't progress, it's a grift.
Giving a billionaire, billions of tax money to build a stadium to turn profit off of is also a grift, in case you missed the entire building of stadiums is a grift. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
There was nothing there north of I-70 then. I had no problem with the arena, other than the tax abatements and corporate chain restaurants and bars that have nothing to do with KC dominating everything and funnelling all of the money out of the city. It stands as a huge missed opportunity.
This plan has all of the same actors, with the added goatfuck of destroying a KC success story to replace it with another round of tax abatements and corporate chain bullshit funnelling the money out of the city again.
This isn't progress, it's a grift.
I'm not a huge fan of P&L and would much rather go a bit south.... I think Lucky Strike is the only place I've ever had a decent drink (and I think that's gone now). Howl at the Moon is fun. Flying Saucer down the street was nice when it was there.
I'd probably stick with the more local stuff, too near the ballpark.. or at least less touristy/bland/better priced places.. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
I'm not a huge fan of P&L and would much rather go a bit south.... I think Lucky Strike is the only place I've ever had a decent drink (and I think that's gone now). Howl at the Moon is fun. Flying Saucer down the street was nice when it was there.
I'd probably stick with the more local stuff, too near the ballpark.. or at least less touristy/bland/better priced places..
I prefer Patty O's to Ballpark Village every time i go to St. Louis although we will usually go to both. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bearcat:
I'm not a huge fan of P&L and would much rather go a bit south.... I think Lucky Strike is the only place I've ever had a decent drink (and I think that's gone now). Howl at the Moon is fun. Flying Saucer down the street was nice when it was there.
I'd probably stick with the more local stuff, too near the ballpark.. or at least less touristy/bland/better priced places..
Well, better take a Saturday night in the Crossroads this spring before it's all gone. If you did, you'd understand how monumentally stupid this plan is. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Well, better take a Saturday night in the Crossroads this spring before it's all gone. If you did, you'd understand how monumentally stupid this plan is.
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Well, better take a Saturday night in the Crossroads this spring before it's all gone. If you did, you'd understand how monumentally stupid this plan is.
Jesus Christ... it's a couple old bars, a strip club and some shitty Ramen places, they aren't tearing down Greenwich Village or Montmartre. They will all get a boatload of money and move somewhere... [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
Well, better take a Saturday night in the Crossroads this spring before it's all gone. If you did, you'd understand how monumentally stupid this plan is.
Meh, I'll worry about stuff that's blocks away when it actually disappears forever... not going to pre-worry about stuff on Main Street or even west of that until it's actually all turned into Famous Dave's and Olive Gardens. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Chris Meck:
There was nothing there north of I-70 then. I had no problem with the arena, other than the tax abatements and corporate chain restaurants and bars that have nothing to do with KC dominating everything and funnelling all of the money out of the city. It stands as a huge missed opportunity.
This plan has all of the same actors, with the added goat**** of destroying a KC success story to replace it with another round of tax abatements and corporate chain bullshit funnelling the money out of the city again.
This isn't progress, it's a grift.
Can't think of one corporate chain surrounding Petco Park.......matter of fact, the one I can recall (tilted kilt) went out of business.
Originally Posted by DJJasonp:
Can't think of one corporate chain surrounding Petco Park.......matter of fact, the one I can recall (tilted kilt) went out of business.
plenty of small businesses around too.
That's not what happened here with the arena at all. But I'm sure this time it'll be different, Charlie Brown! [Reply]