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Nzoner's Game Room>***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***
JakeF 10:28 PM 02-26-2020
A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana:
Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.
Originally Posted by Dartgod:
People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

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Monticore 10:24 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
People get this and survive.
People don't get hit by lighting often but they still recommend you don't go outside during a lightning storm, think of a pandemic as a storm.
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SAUTO 10:24 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by Marcellus:
I've actually been a bit surprised at how many older people I see out and about at stores etc...
i know a couple that are basically ready to go it seems. both over 85 and have lived good lives.

they just do their normal, while calling me and telling me to stay safe :-)...
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Monticore 10:26 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
i know a couple that are basically ready to go it seems. both over 85 and have lived good lives.

they just do their normal, while calling me and telling me to stay safe :-)...
If I hit 85 i'm doing coke and jumping out of planes, at 70 I might still take things easy.
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DaFace 10:28 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by SAUTO:
i know a couple that are basically ready to go it seems. both over 85 and have lived good lives.

they just do their normal, while calling me and telling me to stay safe :-)...
I don't know their situation, but I think people who are in the top 10% of longevity sometimes feel guilty about it. My grandparents are basically the last of their group of friends and siblings alive. While they still clearly enjoy living, I certainly don't think that they're scared of death at this point.
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lewdog 10:30 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by stevieray:
Von Miller says hi.
World Class athlete comparison, nice! You're on a fucking roll today!

Positive people like me survive as well, however, it's too variable and too random for who will get this and be fine and who won't. The narrative that young people aren't having problems with this virus are bullshit. They may live but also be left with permanent decrease in pulmonary and cardiac function. This not only decreases quality of life but WILL shorten their life span.

You CANNOT just continue to focus on mortality rates.
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mr. tegu 10:37 AM 05-04-2020
So if this was in France six to eight weeks minimum before the first official cases, what do we make of that information?
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ChiliConCarnage 10:37 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
World Class athlete comparison, nice! You're on a fucking roll today!

Positive people like me survive as well, however, it's too variable and too random for who will get this and be fine and who won't. The narrative that young people aren't having problems with this virus are bullshit. They may live but also be left with permanent decrease in pulmonary and cardiac function. This not only decreases quality of life but WILL shorten their life span.

You CANNOT just continue to focus on mortality rates.
Well that's a real bummer
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OrtonsPiercedTaint 10:39 AM 05-04-2020
Won't the medical bills kill the economy too
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stevieray 10:43 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by lewdog:
World Class athlete comparison, nice! You're on a ****ing roll today!

The narrative that young people aren't having problems with this virus are bullshit..
This isn't about me, lew.

And it doesn't take a "world class athlete" WITH ASTHMA to survive. It's not always a death sentence, yet's it's treated as such, when it's mainly unhealthy people who are succumbing.

I didn't say anything about young people.
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Mecca 10:43 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by BleedingRed:
100% Old people should be sheltered in place. But people don't seem to want to admit people take Risks every day in their job. And some people are willing to take the RISK of getting it.
I don't really care if someone wants to take their own life in their hands, the problem is all of the other people they come in contact with that may not have that same opinion.
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BleedingRed 10:44 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by DaFace:
Sure, but that's not really how it works. My grandfather has significant COPD (he's 89), and my grandma still has to go to the store to get groceries for them even though he's staying home. She wears a mask and gloves, but it's not an N95 or anything.

He's had a good life, so if your view is that old people are less deserving of protection than kids, I can get that in a very harsh way. But there's no question that he'd be at a huge risk if this thing were just allowed to spread even though he never leaves his house.
I think the confusion on your end is, the right for you Grand Parents and loved ones to feel safe does not mean more than my constitutional rights.

"If it saves one life, its worth it" is a logical fallacy.

No you "Right" to feel safe doesn't mean anything to me. That being said I can be empathetic and take precautions to make sure I don't do anything that could hurt them
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Mecca 10:45 AM 05-04-2020
I can't wait for protest signs like.......you ate at McDonalds you deserve Covid-19.
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BleedingRed 10:45 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by Mecca:
I don't really care if someone wants to take their own life in their hands, the problem is all of the other people they come in contact with that may not have that same opinion.
Sure but that is irrelevant because those same people would have to expose themselves to those taking the chance.
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BleedingRed 10:46 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint:
Won't the medical bills kill the economy too
Ironically its the LACK of medical bills killing the industry right now.
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IowaHawkeyeChief 10:46 AM 05-04-2020
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Sweden's death rate is not "much worse" than America's.

Their death rate is about 265 deaths per million people, the US's death rate is 204 deaths per million people.

Meanwhile other European countries that have been under draconian lockdown all have much higher death rates... Spain (540 deaths per million people), France (381 deaths per million people), and Italy (477 deaths per million people).

50% of Sweden's deaths have taken place in their elderly care homes... which is the same problem that the draconian lockdown countries are having.
Deaths by age group in Sweden:

88% over age 70
65% over age 80
25% over age 90

12% under age 70
5% under than 60
1.5% under than age 50
0.7% under age 40
0.2% under age 30
0.07% under age 20
0.03% under age 10


https://www.statista.com/statistics/...by-age-groups/
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