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Nzoner's Game Room>*** Official 2019 Kansas City Royals Repository ***
Mama Hip Rockets 08:06 AM 03-28-2019
Get the offseason thread out of here. It's on!

Opening day roster:

Catchers (2): Cam Gallagher, Martin Maldonado

Infielders (7): Hunter Dozier, Lucas Duda, Whit Merrifield, Adalberto Mondesi, Ryan O’Hearn, Chris Owings, Frank Schwindel

Outfielders (4): Alex Gordon, Terrance Gore, Billy Hamilton, Jorge Soler

Starting pitchers (3): Jakob Junis, Brad Keller, Jorge Lopez

Relief pitchers (9): Scott Barlow, Brad Boxberger, Jake Diekman, Chris Ellis, Tim Hill, Ian Kennedy, Kevin McCarthy, Wily Peralta, Kyle Zimmer

Injured list: Danny Duffy, Brian Flynn, Jesse Hahn, Salvador Perez

Suspended: Eric Skoglund
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tk13 02:30 PM 07-31-2019
Got the Astros 3, 4, 5 and 22nd ranked prospects. Did not get Kyle Tucker though.

Corbin Martin, J.B. Bukauskas, Seth Beer and Josh Rojas are headed to the Diamondbacks for Zack Greinke, source tells ESPN.

— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) July 31, 2019

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Mecca 02:30 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by tk13:
Got the Astros 3, 4, 5 and 22nd ranked prospects.

Tucker and Whitley not being in that deal though is a huge win for Houston as they are their premier prospects.
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KChiefs1 02:40 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by tk13:
Got the Astros 3, 4, 5 and 22nd ranked prospects. Did not get Kyle Tucker though.


Greinke has been traded for a buttload of players.
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KChiefs1 02:41 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets:
Well, Houston is gonna win the World Series.

Greinke in the World Series?
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WhawhaWhat 02:43 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by tk13:
Got the Astros 3, 4, 5 and 22nd ranked prospects. Did not get Kyle Tucker though.

DBacks save $70 mil over the next 2 years as well unless there was money sent over in the deal.
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Mecca 02:43 PM 07-31-2019
So doing a bit of digging here....

Seth Beer looks like the best prospect in that deal as odds are he'll be an above average hitting 1st baseman.

However the rest of that deal is very...Martin just had Tommy John surgery, Bukauskas has serious questions on if he can be a starter or not due to his delivery and the other dude is a wildcard, like the Astros 20th ranked prospect.

So I think Beer is a legit prospect then you have 2 fringe top 100 prospects with questions and a flyer, I'm assuming the Astros took back all the money on Grienke's deal to avoid giving up Whitley and Tucker here.
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tk13 02:46 PM 07-31-2019
Sounds like the Dbacks are sending $24 million and the Astros are eating the rest.

They basically had the same evaluation on MLB Network. Beer is going to be a solid major league hitter who probably doesn't have a position other than 1B, but there are questions about the other guys.
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Mecca 02:50 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by tk13:
Sounds like the Dbacks are sending $24 million and the Astros are eating the rest.

They basically had the same evaluation on MLB Network. Beer is going to be a solid major league hitter who probably doesn't have a position other than 1B, but there are questions about the other guys.
The thing I read said that Beer can hit but he's not athletic at all, it made him fall in the draft apparently.
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DJ's left nut 02:58 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
The thing I read said that Beer can hit but he's not athletic at all, it made him fall in the draft apparently.
He didn't really regress at Clemson, nor did he ever explode like expected. As a Freshman he looked like a surefire #1 overall pick but then he plateaued.

And when he struggled in summer ball wood bat tournaments, teams started to get a little nervous about him as a potential AAAA slugger type with no defensive chops.

I still liked him as a hitter but understood why he was slipping a bit. I was going to be disappointed if the Cards didn't take him until Gorman fell in their laps.

The D-Backs did well here; shed about 2/3 of Greinke's salary and got some guys with potential.
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Mecca 03:00 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut:
He didn't really regress at Clemson, nor did he ever explode like expected. As a Freshman he looked like a surefire #1 overall pick but then he plateaued.

And when he struggled in summer ball wood bat tournaments, teams started to get a little nervous about him as a potential AAAA slugger type with no defensive chops.

I still liked him as a hitter but understood why he was slipping a bit. I was going to be disappointed if the Cards didn't take him until Gorman fell in their laps.

The D-Backs did well here; shed about 2/3 of Greinke's salary and got some guys with potential.
It's pretty fair I guess considering the types of trades that are done now, just everyone is going to lose it when they realize Houston acquired Greinke and still has their top 3 prospects from the start of the year in Whitley, Tucker and Alvarez who's up now...

Kinda freaky how good Houstons system is considering all the deals and winning.
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DJ's left nut 03:03 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
It's pretty fair I guess considering the types of trades that are done now, just everyone is going to lose it when they realize Houston acquired Greinke and still has their top 3 prospects from the start of the year in Whitley, Tucker and Alvarez who's up now...

Kinda freaky how good Houstons system is considering all the deals and winning.
The Astros can lose a trade. Badly. And never feel it.

They have so much talent on that squad that they aren't likely to have a need for a guy like Bauskas. A guy like Josh James is an afterthought for them and he'd be the next great pitching prospect for most teams in the league.

Its completely insane how good that organization is. And they're aggressive to boot. They're the blueprint right now.

Glad we let the shitty Jeff Luhnow walk...
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OKchiefs 03:06 PM 07-31-2019
I'm hoping for Houston to curb stomp NY and LAD if they end up facing either of them. These teams who refuse to give up anything of value need to realize the opportunity they missed by stockpiling minor league talent instead of making trades.
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Mecca 03:09 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by OKchiefs:
I'm hoping for Houston to curb stomp NY and LAD if they end up facing either of them. These teams who refuse to give up anything of value need to realize the opportunity they missed by stockpiling minor league talent instead of making trades.
But Houston is in a position to do it that others aren't, they called up their wave of young stars, hit and they still have a shit ton of talent down there that has no spot...

What they're doing would be like if after the Royals called up all their guys the farm system was still top 5 instead of barren.

When you have a young team that is awesome and a top farm system pulling trades isn't gonna hurt you much, you're dealing guys with no spots.

Where would Seth Beer play on the Astros?
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duncan_idaho 03:13 PM 07-31-2019
The Royals’ unwillingness to eat money on Ian Kennedy is frustrating.

You look at what the Braves gave up for Shane Greene - lovely product Joey Wentz as the centerpiece - for 1.3 years of Greene, and you have to think the Royals could have landed something similar had they been willing to pay the rest of Kennedy’s 2019 salary and 1/2 of 2020.

The market for Merrifield should be a lot better in the offseason, when more teams are in “buy” mode. Even then, it would still take a real haul.
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Mecca 03:16 PM 07-31-2019
Originally Posted by duncan_idaho:
The Royals’ unwillingness to eat money on Ian Kennedy is frustrating.

You look at what the Braves gave up for Shane Greene - lovely product Joey Wentz as the centerpiece - for 1.3 years of Greene, and you have to think the Royals could have landed something similar had they been willing to pay the rest of Kennedy’s 2019 salary and 1/2 of 2020.

The market for Merrifield should be a lot better in the offseason, when more teams are in “buy” mode. Even then, it would still take a real haul.
The Royals still do a lot of mind numbing things, I don't understand the refusal to eat money.
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