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Chiefs are a candidate to trade up for a CB: The Chiefs don't own a first-round pick in this year's draft (they dealt that pick away in the Patrick Mahomes trade last year), but I won't be surprised if they move up from where they're picking in the second round (No. 54 overall). They have a glaring need at cornerback and the top cover men will be long gone by the time they are on the clock if they stay put at No. 54. They need to get into the range of picks 35-40 in order to secure a Day One starter at that position, and many around the league expect them to make that happen.
Originally Posted by BossChief:
Losing Peters is a sunk cost.
If we aren’t going to have him this year using the picks we got from him to help this years team isn’t stealing from the future. It’s utilizung currency as it’s earned.
It's also devaluing that currency though as next years second is only worth a third this year. [Reply]
Originally Posted by aturnis:
Disagree. Trade values were pretty fair last year. With the additional freedom to trade centre more willingness to do so.
The Marcus Peters trade is a good template. If the Chiefs are desperate they'll forgo a fair market trade.
I truly thought the Chiefs would get a 1st round pick out the Rans trade [Reply]
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
The Marcus Peters trade is a good template. If the Chiefs are desperate they'll forgo a fair market trade.
I truly thought the Chiefs would get a 1st round pick out the Rans trade
? The Peters trade doesn't count. If they had any leverage to play hardball, they'd have gotten soothing for him.
The Chiefs were getting rid of him. Not interested in keeping him. The entire league knew it. We held zero cards beings we wanted to move him early before the draft. It's really too bad most of the league was scared of him.
If they wanted to hold onto him for a trade during the draft, or even after to a team who didn't get the CB help they were looking for in the draft, they couldn't had more.
They were moving on in a hurry. They got what they could. [Reply]
Originally Posted by aturnis:
? The Peters trade doesn't count. If they had any leverage to play hardball, they'd have gotten soothing for him.
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The Chiefs were getting rid of him. Not inte
rested in keeping him. The entire league knew it. We held zero cards beings we wanted to move him early before the draft. It's really too bad most of the league was scared of him.
They got what they could.
If the entire league knows that the Chiefs want to trade up, we'll have to ante up. Unlike the Mahomes trade this is very public. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
If the entire league knows that the Chiefs want to trade up, we'll have to ante up. Unlike the Mahomes trade this is very public.
You don’t have the biggest brain, or the best brain. [Reply]
The trade value chart has held up for a long time. It may not be followed exactly but it's a good benchmark to start from. Adding Golden moves Sorenson back to part-time doing what he did 2 years ago quite well. Moving up and getting a "compete for starter" CB would help the secondary immensely. They got rid of a lot of trash and have picked up replacements that look to be better on paper. Fuller, Amerson, Golden, Williams, Hitchens. Ford, Berry healthy. Ragland, Houston, Jones. There's 10 of 11 starters. Adding 2-3 bodies able to push for starting time and depth is needed but just adding 1 CB and I would like this group quite a bit over last year's. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare:
If the entire league knows that the Chiefs want to trade up, we'll have to ante up. Unlike the Mahomes trade this is very public.
I think wanting to trade up and being desperate are not the same thing. I honestly wouldn't mind Parry Nickerson or Nick Nelson in the 3rd or 4th, if one of the more polished cornerbacks either isn't available at 54 or a reasonable trade up can't be achieved. [Reply]
Originally Posted by aturnis:
It's also devaluing that currency though as next years second is only worth a third this year.
This.
That second round pick will be worth a lot more next year than it will this year. Best to hold onto till next year. If they want to package it in a trade then, so be it. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bewbies:
I'd not want to trade that 2 next year, having 2 picks in the 2nd round will be nice.
2019 is going to be an amazing fucking draft to fill what the Chiefs desperately need. Pass-rushers.
No fucking way am I dumping off early 2019 picks considering we need all of that shit, badly. If they want to move up for a corner this year, hey ok whatever I guess but don't use anything more than one of the extra 3rds we already hold. Fuck robbing tomorrow for today. [Reply]
Originally Posted by Bewbies:
I'd not want to trade that 2 next year, having 2 picks in the 2nd round will be nice.
I would.
All of the best corners will be gone by pick 40, maybe late 30’s. It’s going to be just like the receivers in the 2014 draft. Pick 78 is only worth 200 points ( enough to move up to the 44th pick), so the Chiefs would have to trade multiple picks (likely 78 and 124) to move that high. We obviously can’t afford to pick only 3 times in the top 4 rounds.
Chiefs need depth and quality at corner. Replace Peters with a good player now and keep your picks to add depth. [Reply]
Originally Posted by BryanBusby:
2019 is going to be an amazing ****ing draft to fill what the Chiefs desperately need. Pass-rushers.
No ****ing way am I dumping off early 2019 picks considering we need all of that shit, badly. If they want to move up for a corner this year, hey ok whatever I guess but don't use anything more than one of the extra 3rds we already hold. **** robbing tomorrow for today.
That’s where I’m at. If I can move 54 and one of the 3s and something else? Probably. I’m all for keeping that pick and I said as much a couple pages ago in this thread [Reply]