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Washington DC and The Holy Land>Disturbing Things Said By 2019 Dem House Freshmen
vailpass 11:48 AM 01-25-2019
There are some Freshmen 2019 Congress people who are showing early signs that they will be promoting controversial points of view not in keeping with traditional American view points. It's still early but they will be interesting to watch as especially once the government reopens.

Reps Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, Alexandria Cortez, and others promise to make things interesting.

For starters, here's one from Omar.


Rep. Ilhan Omar faces backlash after claiming Trump is backing ‘coup’ in Venezuela

Minnesota Democratic Rep. Ilhan Omar is facing a social media backlash after accusing President Trump of backing a “coup” in the socialist-led country of Venezuela even though Nicolas Maduro’s government is considered largely illegitimate by much of the international community.

“A US backed coup in Venezuela is not a solution to the dire issues they face,” Omar tweeted. “Trump’s efforts to install a far right opposition will only incite violence and further destabilize the region. We Must support Mexico, Uruguay, & the Vatican’s efforts to facilitate a peaceful dialogue.”

The U.S. and other nations on Wednesday took the step of recognizing Juan Guaido, the opposition head of the National Assembly, as the interim president of Venezuela. Maduro was elected last year in a vote widely seen as fraudulent.

Omar’s response provoked a fierce backlash on social media.

This is bats*** lunacy on every level https://t.co/uSlDhbdzKT

— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) January 25, 2019



Siding with the guy who has forced his starving populace to eat their pets to own the cons https://t.co/AoFloxElUT

— Jerry Dunleavy (@JerryDunleavy) January 25, 2019



* The opposition is not far-right

* The idea that there is no violence at the moment, or that it's the result of US policy rather than Nicolas Maduro, is absurd

As the vastly differing stances by Sanders and Omar show, the left of the Dems is much less united than people think. https://t.co/T2ch125uWC

— Yascha Mounk (@Yascha_Mounk) January 25, 2019



Omar was at the center of another Twitter controversy earlier this week when she made unsubstantiated accusations against the Covington Catholic students who had the viral confrontation with Native American elder Nathan Phillips.

She also was criticized for claiming that Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., was “compromised” and that Israel has “hypnotized” the world.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rep...p-in-venezuela
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EmojiMania 07:16 PM 01-26-2019
Originally Posted by Randallflagg:
Funny isn't it? An old man, like me, who was raised watching politicians actually work for the good of the country
When you were being raised the politicians you watched actively fought against civil rights and tried to keep the United States segregated! Who do you think you're fooling with this bullshit? Take your nostalgia for the 1950s to your nearest VFW post or something you ****ing windbag :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
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WhiteWhale 07:26 PM 01-26-2019
Originally Posted by EmojiMania:
When you were being raised the politicians you watched actively fought against civil rights and tried to keep the United States segregated! Who do you think you're fooling with this bullshit? Take your nostalgia for the 1950s to your nearest VFW post or something you ****ing windbag :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
There are people who want to abolish the 1st, 2nd, and we've already trampled the 4th amendment into dust.

There's a cult in the media and in politics trying to fire up racial division and resentment.

There are people advocating for 'POC only' spaces. Which is segregation.

We haven't gone far. We just change targets. This idea of modern moral superiority is naive at best and dangerous at worst. When Churchill wanted to stop Hitler and others sought to appease him, HE was called the war monger. The Nazi party was far more popular among the educated. Very popular in academia, but eugenics was all the craze back then. It was the newest in social engineering! Tesla thought it would revolutionize reproduction!

History doesn't always end up the way you think it will. Especially for people who think they're the smartest guy in the room.
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Jim Hammer 08:08 PM 01-26-2019
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
:-)



http://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-i...an-omar-letter
Originally Posted by D2112:
That’s just ****ing crazy. It’s insane how far the left has gone bonkers to lunacy.

Does anybody remember Tom Daschle hugging president Bush after his speech to Congress after 9/11? Could you imagine how they’d treat a republican President now if something like that happened? They’d just point the finger and say “it’s their fault”
I'm sure you dipshits are all about throwing the book at right wing terrorists also, right?
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Iowanian 08:45 PM 01-26-2019
The left is working very hard to radicalize the right.
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vailpass 08:55 PM 01-26-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
The left is working very hard to radicalize the right.
Which will not end the way they’d like.
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Bowser 11:41 PM 01-26-2019
Originally Posted by Jim Hammer:
I'm sure you dipshits are all about throwing the book at right wing terrorists also, right?
The fuck does that have to do with anything they're referencing?
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Jim Hammer 12:05 AM 01-27-2019
Originally Posted by Iowanian:
The left is working very hard to radicalize the right.
Originally Posted by vailpass:
Which will not end the way they’d like.
Globally, Terrorism Deaths Are on the Decline
But in North America and Western Europe, the threat of right-wing terrorism is growing.

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Jim Hammer 12:10 AM 01-27-2019
Originally Posted by Bowser:
The **** does that have to do with anything they're referencing?
They're complaining that Omar is asking for “restorative approach to justice” in the sentencing of some ISIS recruits. I just think to be consistent, they should complain if right-wing terrorists aren't getting max sentences.
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vailpass 11:40 AM 01-29-2019
Some Dems float idea of primary challenge for Ocasio-Cortez


Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) has infuriated colleagues by aligning with a progressive outside group that’s threatening to primary entrenched Democrats. Now some of those lawmakers are turning the tables on her and are discussing recruiting a primary challenger to run against the social media sensation.

At least one House Democrat has been privately urging members of the New York delegation to recruit a local politician from the Bronx or Queens to challenge Ocasio-Cortez.

“What I have recommended to the New York delegation is that you find her a primary opponent and make her a one-term congressperson,” the Democratic lawmaker, who requested anonymity, told The Hill. “You’ve got numerous council people and state legislators who’ve been waiting 20 years for that seat. I’m sure they can find numerous people who want that seat in that district.”

The New York delegation has eyed Ocasio-Cortez with skepticism ever since last summer when the 29-year-old self-described democratic socialist shocked the political world and defeated then-Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.) in what many thought would be a sleepy primary race. Crowley, a Queens powerbroker and affable House Democratic Caucus chairman, had been considered a possible future Speaker.

Many New York and Congressional Black Caucus lawmakers were also furious with Ocasio-Cortez after a recent Politico report stated she and the grass-roots group aligned with her, Justice Democrats, were considering backing a primary challenge to fellow New York Democrat Hakeem Jeffries, a Black Caucus member and establishment insider who succeeded Crowley as caucus chairman.

Both Ocasio-Cortez and Justice Democrats have denied the report, but the group of insurgent progressives has vowed to target centrist Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) and is eyeing other potential 2020 targets.

For now, New York Democratic lawmakers are playing nice with Ocasio-Cortez and her 2.6 million Twitter followers and say no one in the Empire State’s delegation is currently contemplating backing a primary challenger against her.

“We are going to see what happens. Generally for me, I’m giving folks the benefit of the doubt, the presumption of innocence. You might say one thing before you get in here, and then after you get to meet folks, you see what happens and how the body works … things are different, so we’ll see what happens,” Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.), whose district includes part of Queens, said in an interview.

“I can only tell you that the times I’ve spoken to her, and at the times she’s been at the New York delegation meetings, she’s been cooperative and wants to be a team player. That’s what she said, so you gotta take her at her word until something changes,” Meeks added.

Jeffries, the No. 4 House Democrat who some say could someday become Speaker, insisted none of his House colleagues have approached him to run a primary challenger against Ocasio-Cortez. In fact, the 48-year-old Jeffries said, delegation members this month lobbied Democratic leadership to grant Ocasio-Cortez’s request that she be appointed to the House Financial Services and the Oversight and Reform committees.

“I don’t think that is something the New York delegation would contemplate. As you can see, we are totally united behind each other. … The New York delegation sticks together,” Jeffries told The Hill. He said Ocasio-Cortez denied the news report that she was backing a challenger to him, “so there was nothing to work through. I haven’t seen a primary candidate emerge, so I assume when she denied it, she was correct that there was nothing to it.”

No potential challengers to Ocasio-Cortez have yet emerged. But one New York political insider noted that the Queens and Bronx district is home to many ambitious pols who are close to Crowley and don’t like that a political outsider took his seat.

“She’s pissing off a lot of people and has probably made a lot of enemies. … A lot of people who are furious with her are Joe’s allies, including some named Crowley,” said the insider, referring to Crowley’s cousin, Elizabeth Crowley, a former New York City councilwoman. “She is a woman. She’s been moving more to the left. She would be someone interesting.”

Elizabeth Crowley, 41, did not return a request for comment, but she has previously said she’s eyeing a bid for Queens borough president in 2021. She lives in a neighboring Queens district.

For her part, Ocasio-Cortez doesn’t seem particularly worried about a primary challenge. With her newfound fame, she will be a force of nature and fundraising powerhouse in the 2020 cycle; as a political newcomer in 2018, she raised an astounding $2 million last cycle and had more than $400,000 cash on hand, according to campaign finance reports.

Of all people, Ocasio-Cortez would not complain if she gets a primary challenger, her spokesman said.

“We believe in primaries as an idea. We’re not upset by the idea of being primaried. We are not going to go out there being anti-primary — they are good for party,” said Corbin Trent, a campaign spokesman for Ocasio-Cortez and a co-founder of Justice Democrats.

“If voters in the district feel that they can be better represented, that will be their choice on primary day,” he continued. “In the meantime, we’re going to be doing our dead-level best to make sure we are representing the needs and the will of our constituents.”

Justice Democrats spokesman Waleed Shahid predicted a lopsided defeat for whoever tries to take on Ocasio-Cortez.

“Considering she’s more popular and well-known than some of the Democratic presidential contenders, I think whoever challenges her will lose by huge margins,” Shahid said. “It’s a quick way for some D.C. and Wall Street consultants to make some easy money.”

But it’s not just Black Caucus members she has rubbed the wrong way. Ocasio-Cortez, whose mother was born in Puerto Rico, has also annoyed members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus by targeting one of their own: Cuellar. Earlier this month, she appeared in a Justice Democrats promotional video with her spokesman, Corbin, and her chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, touting a program recruiting progressive insurgents to run for Congress.

Justice Democrats is currently searching for a progressive to launch a primary challenge against Cuellar. Hispanic Caucus members aren’t happy about those efforts but say they are taking a wait-and-see approach before intervening with Ocasio-Cortez, who joined the caucus this month.

“We’re going to protect our members and we’re going to protect our own. Full stop,” said centrist Rep. Pete Aguilar (D-Calif.), a former whip for the Hispanic Caucus. “There are plenty of [swing] races and seats that we can play in, and we want to devote our resources to that.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4...-ocasio-cortez
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Discuss Thrower 11:41 AM 01-29-2019
REPOST
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vailpass 11:42 AM 01-29-2019
Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower:
REPOST
RESUCKIT
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patteeu 12:17 PM 01-29-2019
Originally Posted by Jim Hammer:
And that bugs the shit out of you idiots.
Wake up to the anti-Americanism that's ascending in your party.
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Prison Bitch 12:22 PM 01-29-2019
Originally Posted by WhiteWhale:
There are people who want to abolish the 1st, 2nd, and we've already trampled the 4th amendment into dust.

There's a cult in the media and in politics trying to fire up racial division and resentment.

There are people advocating for 'POC only' spaces. Which is segregation.

We haven't gone far. We just change targets. This idea of modern moral superiority is naive at best and dangerous at worst. When Churchill wanted to stop Hitler and others sought to appease him, HE was called the war monger. The Nazi party was far more popular among the educated. Very popular in academia, but eugenics was all the craze back then. It was the newest in social engineering! Tesla thought it would revolutionize reproduction!

History doesn't always end up the way you think it will. Especially for people who think they're the smartest guy in the room.


That is certainly untrue.
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patteeu 12:34 PM 01-29-2019
Originally Posted by Jim Hammer:
Globally, Terrorism Deaths Are on the Decline
But in North America and Western Europe, the threat of right-wing terrorism is growing.
Off of a base of 1000 to 1?

Afghanistan, Iraq, Nigeria, Somalia, Syria, Pakistan, and Egypt are the top 7 countries impacted by terrorism. Let's not be daft.
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Prison Bitch 12:53 PM 01-29-2019
Originally Posted by Jim Hammer:
Globally, Terrorism Deaths Are on the Decline
But in North America and Western Europe, the threat of right-wing terrorism is growing.

Have you retracted your lie that you’re more likely to be killed by a “right winger” than Muslim?
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