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The Lounge>So are the Chiefs getting better or worse this offseason:
DTVietnam 06:42 PM 03-12-2019
Signed:

Hyde
Mathieu
some brokedick Cowboys LB
Spag

Lost:

Berry
Mitch
Houston
Ford
Nelson
Ware
D. Harris
Sutton


Its still early in FA ..hopefully they make a big move at CB
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Pitt Gorilla 11:48 AM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Amnorix:
The offseason is like five minutes old. You have more free agency, the draft, preseason, the ability to make trades. This entire thread is massively premature.
Perhaps, but the question is about right now. I canít imagine a metric by which we could be considered better right now.
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Rain Man 12:10 PM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla:
Perhaps, but the question is about right now. I can’t imagine a metric by which we could be considered better right now.
That's where I stand. I guess maybe people can make an argument that the team may be better long-term in terms of the salary cap and the ability to sign future players, but if the question is about the team on the field, the Chiefs are clearly not as strong now as they were three months ago. We've lost Ford, Houston, Nelson, Morse, Harris, and a half-game of Berry, and we've gained Mathieu and I think another guy or two I'm not familiar with.

As Amnorix pointed out, we're still early, so I presume that the cost savings will be used to sign players, but that hasn't happened as of today, so I have to vote "worse".
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Lzen 12:11 PM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by el borracho:
The defensive coaching staff certainly appears to be improved. I don't know if the team is better today, but they are making the moves that have to be made to get better.

Morse?- one hit away from retirement and we already have a suitable replacement. Definitely glad we didn't lock ourselves to this guy with a fat new contract.
Ford?- can't trust him to stay healthy and certainly don't expect him to maintain last year's production. And he doesn't fit the scheme. I would have been fine letting him walk. Anything over the comp pick in return is fine with me.
Berry?- we didn't really lose Berry this year. We lost Berry two years ago. The only thing left was an expensive ghost that had to be cut.
Nelson?- he was a starter but wasn't exceptional nor irreplaceable. Certainly not worth crying over.
Only guy I am going to miss is Houston and he was simply too expensive to keep.

Cheer up, fans! A lot of answers to our problems in the 2019 draft and the Chiefs have four picks in the top 100.
This is a quality post. :-)
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oldman 12:26 PM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by Rain Man:
That's where I stand. I guess maybe people can make an argument that the team may be better long-term in terms of the salary cap and the ability to sign future players, but if the question is about the team on the field, the Chiefs are clearly not as strong now as they were three months ago. We've lost Ford, Houston, Nelson, Morse, Harris, and a half-game of Berry, and we've gained Mathieu and I think another guy or two I'm not familiar with.
Personally, I don't see Harris, Morse, or Ford as any great loss. As you pointed out, Berry wasn't helping us, either. So that leaves Nelson and Houston. Nelson got better as the season wore on, but not $8M+ per year better. Houston is the only one I hated to see leave, but he was costing us a fortune and maybe he just didn't fit into what Spags sees as his D.
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BWillie 01:55 PM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan:
Yes, that 31st ranked defense was awesome. Worst case they become the 32nd ranked defense.
That is the thing. They WEREN'T the 31st ranked defense based on yards per play and points per possession. The Chiefs defense saw more possessions by the other team than anyone else. They were also leading in most cases, so by scheme the coaching went to allowing yards and a big cushion.

In reality it was around a 20th ranked defense. I know that is hard for you guys to understand, but you need to take into account tempo and possessions. Sheer yardage and points given up mean nothing.
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htismaqe 02:01 PM 03-14-2019
Originally Posted by BWillie:
That is the thing. They WEREN'T the 31st ranked defense based on yards per play and points per possession. The Chiefs defense saw more possessions by the other team than anyone else. They were also leading in most cases, so by scheme the coaching went to allowing yards and a big cushion.

In reality it was around a 20th ranked defense. I know that is hard for you guys to understand, but you need to take into account tempo and possessions. Sheer yardage and points given up mean nothing.
They were 12th in net yards per pass attempt.

They were 31st in yards per rush attempt.

They were also 30th in time per drive, 32nd in plays per drive, and 31st in yards per drive.

Part of the reason they had so many attempts is because they couldn't get off the damn field.
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htismaqe 02:02 PM 03-14-2019
By the way, you were right, they weren't 31st in points per possession.

They were 28th.
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arrowheadnation 09:14 AM 03-15-2019
John Clayton says we are worse...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...nts-look-lost/
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loochy 09:16 AM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by arrowheadnation:
John Clayton says we are worse...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...nts-look-lost/
Well yeah, that's because we aren't done genius.
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htismaqe 09:31 AM 03-15-2019
John Clayton. :-)


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Sweet Daddy Hate 09:32 AM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by arrowheadnation:
John Clayton says we are worse...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...nts-look-lost/
Stopped reading at:

Originally Posted by :
The Chiefs released edge rusher Justin Houston and safety Eric Berry

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King_Chief_Fan 09:54 AM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by loochy:
Well yeah, that's because we aren't done genius.
Well yeah, but with what is left our there will make this team better.
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Shaid 09:59 AM 03-15-2019
We had to make some moves to free up space. Sucks but it's the reality. The reason we are getting better this offseason is that we have some good defensive coaches coming on board. That'll make all the difference.
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ChiefBlueCFC 10:32 AM 03-15-2019
Originally Posted by BWillie:
That is the thing. They WEREN'T the 31st ranked defense based on yards per play and points per possession. The Chiefs defense saw more possessions by the other team than anyone else. They were also leading in most cases, so by scheme the coaching went to allowing yards and a big cushion.

In reality it was around a 20th ranked defense. I know that is hard for you guys to understand, but you need to take into account tempo and possessions. Sheer yardage and points given up mean nothing.
The ranking or whatever ranking you want to use about the defense doesn't matter. They weren't good enough to stop a single 3rd and 10 in overtime and Dee Ford can't look down the fucking line of scrimmage to figure out if he is offsides or not. A lot of that has been addressed, or is being addressed.

So in reality, we just want the defense to be an additional stop better. A little better awareness and to not leak like a fucking sieve when it matters
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lawrenceRaider 10:40 AM 03-15-2019
Chiefs are not better talent wise currently. Not really worse though when it's all taken together. With a decent draft, y'all should be better.
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