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The Lounge>So are the Chiefs getting better or worse this offseason:
DTVietnam 06:42 PM 03-12-2019
Signed:

Hyde
Mathieu
some brokedick Cowboys LB
Spag

Lost:

Berry
Mitch
Houston
Ford
Nelson
Ware
D. Harris
Sutton


Its still early in FA ..hopefully they make a big move at CB
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In58men 07:23 AM 03-13-2019
Better because we donít have Bob Sutton.

Some of you just need something to bitch about.
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MahiMike 07:25 AM 03-13-2019
I know this - Dorsey and Veach are throwing their jocks around. These 2 are changing the NFL.
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Best22 07:29 AM 03-13-2019
2014: Cut Flowers
Everyone says our defense got even worse, but it actually got better

2017: Cut Maclin
Everyone said we got worse, but our passing attack was much better and Smith had a career year

Letís wait and see. I trust the FO here
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Stryker 07:30 AM 03-13-2019
I feel BETTER - the fat needed to be trimmed and it has been. Next get rid of Berry and build a new. I love our new offense but I really miss our great defenses of yesteryear.
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Chief_N_Bama 07:58 AM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Why in the **** does everyone keep using the term edge? We aren't that team anymore. It's 4-3 ends now not edge rushers.

Like I'm sure this team would like to have Clellin Ferrell but that isn't happening.

Everyone just needs to chill the **** out, it's a scheme and personnel change, have the damn stomach for it.
EDGE isn't exclusive to the 3-4.
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Hoover 08:09 AM 03-13-2019
I know it's not always as exciting as signing player x, y, and z, but what we are witnessing is a complete restructure of how the Chiefs are built.

This was always going to happen once the Chiefs found their franchise QB. Glad to not see Veach spend money on Ford because we "should" and instead is using that cap space to improve the defense as a whole.

As for getting a 2nd round pick in 2020, again, I get that it would have been awesome to get the niners 2nd this year, but that's a pretty high pick. Plus, when managing the salary cap and contracts its helps to be adding draft capital in years out. Like the Peters trade, we are going to be pretty excited about that pick when the time comes. Drafts with 4 players in the top 100 in back to back years, yeah sign me up!
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KCChiefsFan88 08:12 AM 03-13-2019
Too early to evaluate.

I was hoping the Chiefs would have a Super Bowl or bust offseason like the Rams did last year and like Cleveland is apparently doing this year to take advantage of Mahomes' rookie contract window.

Veach has been able to create some additional salary cap flexibility by trading Dee Ford and releasing Justin Houston so maybe the Super Bowl or bust aggressive free agency acquisitions/trades will begin soon enough.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 01:14 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by Mecca:
Why in the fuck does everyone keep using the term edge? We aren't that team anymore. It's 4-3 ends now not edge rushers.

Like I'm sure this team would like to have Clellin Ferrell but that isn't happening.

Everyone just needs to chill the fuck out, it's a scheme and personnel change, have the damn stomach for it.
Damn straight, Mr. Mecca! When the head coach of the team straight-up tells you at the end of the 2018 season that the pass rush will be coming from the gut, and that is the wave of the future, you might do well to listen instead of pretending that we're going to keep running the same old edge bullshit, or that we are going to keep/draft that type of personnel.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
Too early to evaluate.

I was hoping the Chiefs would have a Super Bowl or bust offseason like the Rams did last year and like Cleveland is apparently doing this year to take advantage of Mahomes' rookie contract window.

Veach has been able to create some additional salary cap flexibility by trading Dee Ford and releasing Justin Houston so maybe the Super Bowl or bust aggressive free agency acquisitions/trades will begin soon enough.
I like the way we're doing it. The way I see it, we're priming the stage for an "All-In" as best we can for 2019( but more likely for 2020 )without sacrificing or mortgaging the future, and while putting together something that can be managed, retained, and/or switched out quickly if needed.

I like the way certain people act like Veach is working in a vacuum all by himself, as if he hasn't been given instruction on which players to release and which to pursue. In many cases, people could easily substitute the name "Veach" with "Reid" or "Spags" or even "Clark".
It's ridiculous to assume that the GM is just locked away in his office, doing whatever the fuck tickles his fancy. But you would think he was with the way certain people around are reacting.
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Shields68 01:50 PM 03-13-2019
So far I think it is pretty much going as planned. Ford does not fit the system, and contract is more then you can pay a 3rd down specialist. so franchise him and then try and get something for him. Check.

Houston's contract needed to go. Check

The other guys were not coming back.

Now hopefully by getting rid of the money paying Ford and Houston you can bring in a few guys who fit the system. But if the expectation was we were going to go from a bottom 2 defense to a top 5, that is probably not going to happen.

I think Spags will have a defense that will stop the run and then have to be creative with the blitzes to apply pressure. But Mahomes and the offense are going to have to cover a lot of weaknesses.
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htismaqe 01:52 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama:
Why?


Watkins 3/$48MM = 40/519/3 while playing in 10 of 16 games
Hitchens 5/$45MM = 132ypg/5ypa
Reggie Ragland = see above
Speaks = LOL (and we traded up for this LOL)

And so far this year: :-)
Oh look, itís Don Ford. Your brother plays for San Francisco now, sir
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Line Judge 06:45 PM 03-13-2019
This is the latest list as of 3/13. Does this mean that they will not be with the chiefs next year or that they are still negotiating salaries>
Chiefs Unrestricted Free Agents
These players officially became free agents at 3 p.m. central time Wednesday and can sign with club.
• G Jeff Allen
• DE Allen Bailey
• WR Kelvin Benjamin
• WR Chris Conley
• OL Jordan Devey
• TE Demetrius Harris: Agreed to a two-year contract with the Cleveland Browns
• C Mitch Morse: Agreed to four-year, $44 million contract with the Buffalo Bills
• CB Steven Nelson: Agreed to three-year, $25.5 million contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers
• CB Orlando Scandrick
• FB Anthony Sherman
• WR De'Anthony Thomas
• RB Spencer Ware
• RB Charcandrick West
• LB Frank Zombo

I ask this because someone said that Ware was gone.
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notorious 06:46 PM 03-13-2019
My mindset is better about this team.
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Sweet Daddy Hate 06:59 PM 03-13-2019
Originally Posted by notorious:
My mindset is better about this team.
By 1,000 miles and counting my friend.
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KC Tattoo 07:18 PM 03-13-2019
As soon as they fired DC Greg Robinson this offseason we got better.
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Beef Supreme 11:15 PM 03-13-2019
It's been quite the fire sale. We kinda had to do it, and we lost some other guys too, but I'm not mad about it. We'll see i guess.
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