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Nzoner's Game Room>Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
DaFace 01:06 PM 09-29-2018
Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.
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TribalElder 09:05 PM 10-25-2018


they can't move him to IR or they will look foolish for paying so much money
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Red Dawg 09:10 PM 10-25-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
The broncos gave them all they wanted a month ago. This one isn’t a gimme
No game is a gimme. Denver is against the wall.
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htismaqe 09:59 PM 10-25-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
The broncos gave them all they wanted a month ago. This one isn’t a gimme
The Broncos gave them all they wanted:

1. On primetime TV.
2. At Denver.
3. With the altitude advantage.
4. With a raucous home crowd.
5. With a fair amount of help from the refs.

Denver gave them all they wanted while getting ALL of the advantages. They won't have any of them this time. The Denver line is horrible and the Arrowhead crowd is going to be beyond loud. The defense is going to do to Denver exactly what they did to Cincinatti.
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Titty Meat 10:01 PM 10-25-2018
Originally Posted by O.city:
The broncos gave them all they wanted a month ago. This one isn’t a gimme
You're on that blantons boi
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Titty Meat 10:02 PM 10-25-2018
Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88:
A bullshit narrative.

Eric Berry hasn’t played football in nearly 14 months and counting.

To “save” him for the playoffs, thinking that he can instantly jump back into game action is not happening.
Not save him for the playoffs dumbass. Play him around Thanksgiving. Gives the defense 6-8 weeks to get acclimated.
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RunKC 10:05 PM 10-25-2018
Originally Posted by htismaqe:
The Broncos gave them all they wanted:

1. On primetime TV.
2. At Denver.
3. With the altitude advantage.
4. With a raucous home crowd.
5. With a fair amount of help from the refs.

Denver gave them all they wanted while getting ALL of the advantages. They won't have any of them this time. The Denver line is horrible and the Arrowhead crowd is going to be beyond loud. The defense is going to do to Denver exactly what they did to Cincinatti.
Yup.

Royce Freeman is probably not going to play in this game either. Their best G tore his Achilles and their RT is out.

The Chiefs defense is pointing up and won’t make anywhere near the type of dumbass run stopping mistakes at home that they did in Denver.

This game should be over by the mid 3rd quarter.
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dlphg9 10:29 PM 10-25-2018
Anyone acting like Denver has a chance is just playing stupid. Chiefs will win by at least 21
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loochy 06:35 AM 10-26-2018
Originally Posted by dlphg9:
Anyone acting like Denver Eric Berry has a chance is just playing stupid.
FYP
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MahiMike 07:03 AM 10-26-2018
What's going on with Berry? I need my day to day "day to day"!
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loochy 07:11 AM 10-26-2018
Originally Posted by MahiMike:
What's going on with Berry? I need my day to day "day to day"!
the great swammy says....

...WILL NOT PRACTICE TODAY
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farmerchief 07:26 AM 10-26-2018
I just hope he's not drawing extra pay being a sideline coach,,
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htismaqe 08:52 AM 10-26-2018
Originally Posted by RunKC:
Yup.

Royce Freeman is probably not going to play in this game either. Their best G tore his Achilles and their RT is out.

The Chiefs defense is pointing up and won’t make anywhere near the type of dumbass run stopping mistakes at home that they did in Denver.

This game should be over by the mid 3rd quarter.
It will be interesting to see how fast Miller is. He's apparently dinged up.
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Iconic 10:30 AM 10-26-2018
A part of me believes Berry is just here for one final run this season. He's holding back for a SB run that leads us to Atlanta. He wants to try and lay it all out there for a SB ring in his hometown. Raise up the Vince Lombardi trophy, retire, and have that story book ending to a legendary career. I'm just going to withhold judgement till about week 14. If he's not playing by then I'll let the hate flow through.
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htismaqe 10:32 AM 10-26-2018
Originally Posted by Iconic:
A part of me believes Berry is just here for one final run this season. He's holding back for a SB run that leads us to Atlanta. Maybe he just wants to try and lay it all out there for a SB ring in his hometown. Get it, and you have a happy Eric Berry who possibly retires after it. I'm just going to withhold judgement till about week 14. If he's not playing by then I'll let the hate flow through.
That's a scenario I could accept.
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OKchiefs 10:41 AM 10-26-2018
But what happens to his salary and the salary cap if he retires? I'm fine with him giving his all and riding off into the sunset, never to be seen again, as long as we can gain some relief from his albatross of a contract.
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